Cinematic moment of "Real" Vs. "Unreal"

Cinematic moment of "Real" Vs. "Unreal"
The Matrix

Neo: "This isn't real?"
Morpheus: "What is 'real'? How do you define 'real?' If you are talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain."


(Scene from the movie: The Matrix)

November 26th, 2011 Evening Prayers

A Prayer of Thanks

Dear God, it is November 26th, 2011 it is Indigo Ribbon month in support of Targeted Individuals everywhere. Social isolation hits many Targeted Individuals hard, God, and for many

Because of being slandered, harassed and stalked constantly some are alienated from their own family and friends in a constant state of fear due in no small part of the criminals who harass them and stalk them on a regular basis. Many are very strong, self-sufficient and self-reliant, God. Even sometimes though, even the strongest people can get a little weary.

And having something, someone, or for some Targeted Individuals some place to lean on can be of great considerable value and comfort.  So many Targeted Individuals find great comfort in speaking to each other on the phone finding others who share their plight on the internet

Getting together to fight for their rights and support each other in community groups,

And many other ways. Thanksgiving was yesterday, God, and though the spirit of that holy-day (holiday) has passed, I want to offer a prayer of thanks for what has been given to me

And, I believe, to other Targeted Individuals around the world. Whether some know it or not

Targeted Individuals that step out and tell their stories, talk to another TI who just learned the truth

of their predicament, post their evidence to the web, gather the courage to file lawsuits, enourage each other, be who they are despite the covert harassment, or even simply defy the perpetrators of these crimes by saying "no" by living, doing all the

TI's can do to just live, encourages so many of us, both Targeted Individuals and non-Targeted Individuals alike, to do as they do. I want to offer a prayer of thanks.

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God,

Thank you for the brave persons I have encountered personally

And for the brave souls I have yet to meet.

Thank you for their courage to reach out

Speak out

And even more so, to seek help.

It is by the efforts of all within the Targeted individual Community,

Every one of us that progress

However slowly it comes

Ultimately will bring about long awaited justice.

Thank you for these people

Who are a somebody, are a person

No matter who tells them otherwise.

Thank you for the gift of inner strength God

And that which I seen time and time again

All Targeted Individuals possess

Even if the crimes going on at the moment

Can overwhelm them and make them forget that 

Inner fire every now and again.

Help them to see it again and again.

Today God

And everyday.

I give thanks for the gift of laughter

And for the gift of a sense of humor

And just the contagiousness of it.

Humor is a wonderful gift God

Give TI's everywhere a very bad case of the giggles, God

So any stress they feel is instantly relieved

And the only thing that hurts is thair stomachs 

That they hold from the laughter 

And not just the Thanksgiving Day (pig-out) Feast  ;-)

And how something as simple as a smile

(Picture owner has no affiliation to this site)

Can make a person's entire day
Brighter.

We all have inner gifts God that each of us

Can be thankful for

Great talents that can only add to our enduring

Value as children of you God

Every single one of us.

And I am most thankful for you, God

In so many ways you act though your children on this planet, young and old,

To speak to those who need your Word.

And, God, help those who doubt for a single minute

That you are not among them

Meet someone today, another Targeted Individual maybe 

Or just a stranger

And help other Targeted Individuals everywhere

By speaking though them

That you love them

And are with them.

And I am thankful for that God

I am thankful.

Amen.

- Aisha Madison (Ati Hope)

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November 18th, 2011 Evening Prayers

Good evening God, and everyone who is here. It is November 18th, 2011, it is Indigo Ribbon Month, in support of Targeted Individuals everwhere around the globe. I have been off-line (no service) for the last few days, God, and I want to get back on-track with the Indigo Ribbon Campaign.  I am a big fan of music, God, and music, for me is an artistic form of spirituality and living, expressed prayer even. I want to offer this song of hope for Targeted Individuals tonight. It is a very beautiful, moving and soulful song, by music artist/gospel singer Donnie McClurkin (no affiliation to this site and non-TI). I hope and pray that tonight, especially the lyrical part in the song of "we get back up again" resonates with any and all Targeted Individuals and those who support them, and gives them a very good glimpse at what they did all day today: say "no" to organized stalking and electronic harassment simply by living and being themselves. Thank you God, and Thank you Targeted Individuals around the world for coming to this site. Pray in spirit for all Targeted Individual's, yourself included, when you pray "get back up again." And, to borrow from the Bible, "Go do likewise." I want you to know that I see you, I hear you, I am with you, and I pray for you. And I love you. And thank you.
- ATI4Hope

We Fall Down - Donnie McClurkin (Live in London)

We fall down but we get up
We fall down but we get up
We fall down but we get up
For A saint is just a sinner that fell down
But you didn't stay there, and got up, sing that


We fall down but we get up
We fall down but we get up
We fall down but we get up
For a saint is just a sinner who fell down and got up


We fall down but we get up
We fall down but we get up
We fall down but we get up
For a saint is just a sinner who fell down and got up




We fall down but we get up
(Say it) We fall down but we get up
But we get back up again (We fall down but we get up)
For a saint is just a sinner who fell down and got up


Do me a favor, look at someone right next to you
and tell them to say,


Get back up again (Tell them, tell them)
Get back up again
Get back up again
Get back up again
Get back up again
Get back up again
For a saint is just a sinner who fell down and got up
(That's all we are. That's all we are
A sinner that fell down
 But we couldn't stay there
We couldn't stay there because
There was a seed of righteousness in us
That wouldn't let us)








Look them dead in the eyes and say,
Get back up again
Get back up again
Get back up again
Get back up again
Get back up again
Get back up again
For a saint is just a sinner who fell down and got up
For a saint is just a sinner who just fell down and got up




Look them in the eyes and say
Get back up again! (Get back up again!)
Get back up again
Get back up again
Get back up again
Get back up again
Get back up again
For a saint is just a sinner who fell down and got up




Get back up again
Get back up again
Get back up again
Get back up again
Get back up again
Get back up again
For a saint is just a sinner who fell down and got up


(lyrics styled to YouTube Video above of live London event with Donnie McClurkin)




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"Whenever I despair, I remember that all through history, the way of truth and love has always won. There are murders and tyrants, and for a time they can seem invincible but in the end they always fail. Think of it. Always. Think of it."
- Mahatma Gandhi

November 8th, 2011 Evening Prayers

November 5th, 2011 Evening Prayers

In support of Targeted Individuals everywhere, this evening, November 5th, 2011 (By the way, happy Guy Fawkes Day) of Indigo Ribbon Month, I want to offer a prayer for Targeted Individuals  tonight. Find those who would resonate with my words the most God, and give resources of equal resonance to TI's and TI-Supportive individuals to help them both cope with and keep up continuing activism efforts against these crimes. Thank you God.

I Pray

I pray for your healing tonight,

I pray for your strength

I pray for your ability to rise above Challenges

No matter how imperfectly you face them

I pray that tonight you have a wonderful

Restful nights sleep 

And I pray that those who harass and stalk you

Call it a night a little earlier tonight

Or that God grants you peace and amnesty

From the psychological and physical harassment

This very beautiful night
Tonight I pray that you do not "kick yourself"
For handling the perpetrators of these crimes
Less than perfectly

I pray that you never lose hope in humanity

And that you capacity to still be able to hope

Means for you that at least one other person

In this world still has faith in the ability of a 

Single person to change the world

And that you know that you do not need

The blessing of another person

To know what is right for you 

And to do what is right

Have a restful nights sleep

And blessed dreams tonight

I pray that tomorrow morning

When you wake up to sunlight

You see the promise of what could

Be the best day of your life so far

Targeted Individuals everywhere,

I want you to know that I see you, I hear you, I pray for you, and I am with you. 

And thank you for being here with me and the rest of humanity.

Thank you.

Amen.

Prayer from Participant: A Targeted Individual (For Hope)

November 4th, 2011 Evening Prayers

November 3rd, 2011 Evening Prayers

November 1st, 2011 Evening Prayers

November 1st, 2011 Evening Prayers For Indigo Ribbon Campaign  

 

Written Version

"Hello God, It’s November 1^st, 2011 Indigo Ribbon Month and this is my evening prayer for Targeted Individuals. The prayer is not one that is my own tonight God and I hope that by sincere effort and intent God, this prayer resonates all the same with those who hear it.

Here is my prayer to Targeted Individuals tonight God. Guide my voice God and allow those who hear me speak “I Am” it is their very soul that speaks those words to them tonight and my own word fall silent on their ears so their own souls may preach to them.

I offer this affirmation as my prayer tonight:"

Affirmation of the Disciple

**Original Source: Lucis Trust, no affiliation.**

"I am a point of light within a greater Light. I am a strand of loving energy within the stream of Love divine. I am a point of sacrificial Fire, focused within the fiery Will of God. 

And thus I stand

I am a way by which men may achieve. I am a source of strength, enabling them to stand. I am a beam of light, shining upon their way. 

And thus I stand.

And standing thus, revolve And tread this way the ways of men, And know the ways of God. 

And thus I stand."

*

"And Targeted Individuals everywhere, I want you to know tonight that I see you, I hear you, I am with you and I pray for you. Good night."

Spoken by Participant: A Targeted Individual (For Hope)

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November 1st 2011 Morning Prayers

Morning Prayer Video From Indigo Ribbon Campaign Participant: A Targeted Individual (For Hope)

Written Version For Translation:

"My God who is maker and sustainer of all of life, Today is November 1, 2011, Indigo Ribbon month, God, in support of targeted individuals all around the world. My prayers today in honor of the first day of Indigo Ribbon Month, God, though this inner light symbolized in this candle I hold in the palms of my hands that is You, is within all of your Children on this planet, and I honor it because they are You, today I want to honor this light as a powerful symbol of those who have their rights violated on a daily basis but fight for justice the same, and that is Targeted Individuals. This light symbolizes the combined strength of Targeted Individuals everywhere and I hold it in the palm of my hand today as a symbol of remembrance of those who continue living in spite of the crimes committed against them, continue to raise awareness of the crimes of organized group stalking and electronic harassment no matter what obstacles are thrown in their path towards justice, and in honor of that courage of conviction and inner strength that many targets of these crimes show day after day, simply by living. Today God, I want to offer targeted individuals around the world a prayer of hope this morning that I hope will inspire victims of these crimes to continue on each day fighting for the most basic of human rights that are denied them and others like them every single day. And In honor of that courage, God, I offer this morning prayer:

A Morning Prayer For Targeted Individuals: November 1st, 2011

"My God who is 

Maker and Sustainer of All That Is, 

Lend Targeted Individuals everywhere health, strength, and Love 

During this coming day and sustain that love Into the coming night. 

For my air is their air, and their air mine and that Air is You 

And it is the only real thing 

That enduringly sustains us all. 

Guide us with Your Divine Wisdom 

And be humanity's compass 

As we each walk the way 

That is our soul's path 

This coming day. 

Bless everyone, God. 

All of us. 

And encourage us all to bless each other. 

And Blessed be to all. 

Amen. "

"Targeted Individuals everywhere

I see you

I hear you

I am with you

and I pray for you. 

Thank you. "

Participants Website: http://www.ati4hope.info/

Mohandas "Mahatma" K. Gandhi---under surveillance?

FYI: Did you know that Mohandas "Mahatma" K. Gandhi himself during his life in India was under constant surveillance? Yes, it's true. Below is a quote from The Essential Gandhi edited by Louis Fischer. A little wisdom from the Mahatma may be inspiring and something to think about when it comes to activism on our part, emphasis on bringing these crimes out into the open:

"I know I have achieved most satisfactory results from evolving the boldest of my plans in broad daylight. I have never lost a minute's peace for having detectives by my side. The public may not know I have been shadowed throughout my stay in India. That has not only not worried me but I have even taken friendly services from these gentlemen, many have apologized for having to shadow me. As a rule what I have spoken in their presence has already been published to the world. The result is that now I do not even notice the presence of these men and I do not know that the Government is much the wiser for having watched my movement through its secret agency.... Removal of secrecy brings about the full disappearance of the Secret Service without further effort..."

Source: The Essential Gandhi: An Anthology of His Writings On His Life, Work and Ideas  edited by Louis Fischer. Chapter 11: Non-violence, Pg. 156.

First and Foremost...and Then These: Part One

You might be wondering about the title of this post. Sounds like the advice we are all given at some point in our own lives. “Take care of your responsibilities first” or “Put first things first” In some form or another I'm willing to bet most of us has been told something like this by those who care about us the most. Here, I want to take this wisdom and propose a not-so-new spin on this responsibility as it relates to targeted individuals. “First and Foremost”----is what I want to call this new responsibility, and it is what I am in the process of learning how to make it a new habit of mine. “First and Foremost” will become my first priority in my life as a targeted individual. It is just plain necessity now, commonsense in my opinion for TI's until the covert harassment stops. There is no more taking for granted this seemingly simple advice. In fact I hope that you, the Targeted Individual take what I say here to heart, make it your own with your heart, soul, and hope still intact. There is nothing to fear in this responsibility here, in fact I believe it will help you suffer less in the long run if you make this your own. I believe understanding “First and Foremost” will save you all kinds of heartache and pain as you try to live as best a life as you can in these circumstances, which for too many TI's (targeted individuals) of Organized Stalking and/or Electronic Harassment is now for life.

“First and Foremost” means simply to understand this: Organized Stalking and Electronic Harassment is, first and foremost, an attempt to covertly destroy your life and is a covert attack on your life as well as every single aspect of it. This is all you need to know when it comes to your life and these crimes right now, including any street theater, slander campaigns, mobbing in the workplace, electronic harassment (especially here) and any other crimes. First and Foremost means words of the perps mean nothing, while on the other hand, their actions mean everything. And that is all you need to see to understand what the intention of these crimes are. And, most importantly, First and Foremost means the very nature of these two crimes alone is all the reason you need to both remember and live this very idea: that you are a human being, you do not deserve what is being done to you, you have every right to your emotions, your feelings, your own life, your own mind and the right to your own being. You are full within your rights to pursue happiness, do what you can and must do to live your life as well and happily as you can, and to do this with no regard for those who do not want you to. And here, my personal opinion when it comes to the perpetrators of the Electronic Harassment and/or Organized Stalking is that unless those who participated do not anymore and you can obviously see this for yourself, “First and Foremost” is all you need to understand about the perpetrators of these crimes. First things first, and live well. That is your new responsibility. Please do.

I will be adding to this idea as my own experience of both organized stalking and electronic harassment continues to both tell me more about the seriousness of these crimes and I use my experiences of these crimes to come up with what I hope to be useful methods for both coping with, bringing exposure to, and living a good life in spite of being a target of multiple stalkers and a target of electronic harassment.

Okay, I want to end on a lighter note. I've been all about media, music and writing on this blog so far as a means to communicate messages I hope bring you hope. Just a heads-up, I'm big on artistic expression, so you may be seeing a lot of artistic expressions of the perspectives of hope, joy, happiness, love, and healing for those who are targets of organized stalking and/or electronic harassment. So here is both the music video for "Uprising" by Muse and the Lyrics (opens in a new window from Lyrics.com). I think a little of your story may be somewhere in this song.
*Disclaimer: I do not own any part of this song or the video and not even the band itself. All is theirs, I own none of it and claim no ownership of it.*









I'd suggest using this one to let out any anger you have right now, with any healthy means. (For myself right now the "anger" I feel towards this crime---that word is a gross understatement of the true nature of these crimes. But then there are ways to cope, like helping those in the same position as I am as a targeted individual e.g. this blog). And then click the next blog post marked First and Foremost Part 2 for one more video that I hope puts a smile back on your face and forget about your any anger, fear or hatred you may be feeling right now.

First and Foremost...and Then These: Part Two

Don't give up hope and keep going. Please. You are wanted here and you are not alone.

All love.

- Ati Hope

A Prayer For Each Morning

A Morning Prayer
My God, who is
Maker and Sustainer of
All That Is.
Lend me health, strength, and
Love
During this coming day.
My air is your air
And it is the one that
Enduringly sustains me.
Guide me with
Your Divine Wisdom
And be my compass
As I walk the path
 That is my soul's journey this day.
Bless me today God.
And
Let me be a blessing
To all I encounter today.
Blessed be.
Amen.
-By Ati Hope 

Light of the World

Matt 5:14-16

NRSV

Matthew 5:14 NIV

"You are the light of the world.

A city built on a hill cannot be hid.

No one after lighting a lamp

puts it under the bushel basket,

but on the lamp-stand and

it gives light to all in the house.

In the same way,

Let your light shine before others..."

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Hope your day and house just got a little bit brighter.

I think the sun just became a little bit brighter just now.

Smile.

Trust me,

You are allowed to.

Take care.

- Ati Hope

A Song to Build Your Courage

This is a song that I love. If you have never listened to it, especially the last part, I encourage you to listen to it. Here is a link to the You Tube video, or you can watch it below. The song is called "Sea Lion" by Sage Francis, featuring Saul Williams, and what is below is the final verse of the song (which is 2min 52 sec. into the song). Enjoy!

I’m a tenor in the choir
But I sing a different song
Of how the wheres and whys of now
All prove I don’t belong
But I’m staying
I've planted seeds and plan to watch them grow
I've watered all my wishes dreams fulfilled
More seeds to sow
And I promise
To learn to love
The way I've learned to fear
To unknot all the inhibitions
Tangled in my hair
To let my ego mound in piles
Around the barber chair
And make a graceful exit
From my vexed troubled years
I've decided
I've been invited to my own resort
Where knights can leave their armor
Neatly piled by the door
And every woman, child, and man will
Gather by the shore
And study how sea lions
Swim in cursive


- song, "Sea Lion" by Musical Artist Sage Francis
feat. Saul Williams

Words of Encouragement

"Refrigerator" Power Words of Encouragement
 [ And you thought that fridge was only for your leftovers... ;-) ]

(P.S. File size is 636KB)

Enjoy!

Hope in the Face of Despair

***Warning:*** Not a completely warm fuzzy blog post. Dealing with the sensitive subject of suicide. Proceed with hope in your heart and a smile intact.

Today's post is one pretty close to me. This is for two reasons; one is that I do know what it is like to feel close to that edge all of us feel but it is still taboo to talk about in our society:  suicide---or at least thinking about it. It is that place where it does not matter what else is good in your life, all of your resources cannot help you cope with the pain you feel day in and day out, and for some their problems can become so bad that anything that may look like it could be the ultimate means to make the misery stop, even if that option is a permanent one---death, does not look so bad, even though there is another way.

Do you watch cartoons? I know what conventional wisdom says about adults and cartoons (Grown-up kids, adult children, etc. are what we grown folk who love our cartoons are called) but there is plenty to gain from watching cartoons, like this little gem here:

(Note: From the episode "Avatar Day". I do not own Avatar: The Last Airbender, used here for illustrative purposes. Copyright owners and Viacom.)

Prince Zuko: Then there's no hope at all. 
Uncle Iroh: No! Zuko! You must never give into despair. Allow yourself to slip down that road and you surrender to your lowest instincts. In the darkest times, hope is something you give yourself. That is the meaning of inner strength.

(From Animated Series "Avatar: The Last Airbender")

That is one of my favorite cartoon series really every. And it had a lot of moments like this. Some of the clips are on Youtube if you want to take a peak... but back on topic here--- the talk of suicide among Targeted Individuals. To quote a website I went to a few times while in a dark place in the past, "Suicide is not chosen; it happens when pain exceeds resources for coping with pain." (source: metanoia.org/suicide ---by the way, there is nothing specific to Targeted Individuals is on this site; I visited this site before I was aware of the OS and EH around me) While I have not felt like that in a long time, some of the organized stalking in my life, particularly the V2K recently, is what gave me this idea. What I am working on is a go-to page for other Targeted Individuals of organized stalking and electronic harassment, to do for other TI's what metanoia.org does for non-TI's (feel free to pass along metanoia.org link to any non-target. It is still a great site. Even hold on to it yourself, along with other resources you have.)

Ours is a particularly tough place, since much of the time the bulk of the crimes committed against TI's usually cannot be proven in a court of law (yet), either we try to accept a lie in exchange for temporary help, meaning the psychiatric label complete with the anti-psychotic medication(s) in false hopes that the ongoing "voices" will wash away---all the while knowing exactly what is happening to us and feeling completely bypassed by the justice system because of this. Walk into a crisis center, mention either organized stalking, or how about this: Voice-to-Skull or just say "I hear the voices of people in my own home!" ...and in all probability you will rest easy in that padded  12ft x 12ft room complete with a nice restraint jacket to keep you warm while you sleep off that tranquilizer shot. Dramatic use of words (for what I hope made you giggle a little. It can help to laugh a little, since these crimes are a lot of words that I won't attempt to squeeze here) aside, that is the sad reality. And if you will not accept living a lie that entails telling mental health professionals and police that it really is the "crazy voices" and not actual vicious criminal harassment occurring, where do you turn? Especially since believing the lie will not --- and please learn this now while you are well and of sound mind---- will not stop the harassment, nor make any of the electronic component go away. Are you going to force yourself to go another day baring the brunt of the covert harassment each and every day while trying to avoid destructive coping habits such as smoking, drinking, and drugs? For some TI's, unfortunately, the decision comes to a desperate place: How exactly do I end it? For some, it is their own lives. For others, revenge motivates an angry, desperate TI into revenge-violence, like murder-suicide. There is nothing to condone violence and everyone loses in this type of situation, however there are still people who have not been and will not be held responsible with the angry Targeted Individual until these crimes get their rightfully-earned places in the law books as serious human rights violations and criminal offenses: those who asserted 24/7 covert harassment and stalking on this TI. There would be blood on their hands and for some the only thing to do would be to move on to the next TI, self-vindicating themselves of any wrong-doing.

The project here is to give TI's a site, as I said earlier like how metanoia.org helps non- targets of multiple stalkers and/or electronic harassment, where if they are in an angry or desperate place, here is at least one other stop they can make before they really consider the permanent, sad alternative. It is still under construction, however the page is now up. It is the one labeled "If You Are In Crisis Now" so I want to offer any targets of organized stalking and/or electronic harassment this page to hold onto for the night, as well as the pages titled "Resources For Targets" from one of my most favorite non-target  of stalking

 (FYI: I did discover though from reading about him that he was indeed under constant surveillance quote "I have never lost a minute's peace for having detectives by my side. The public may not know I have been shadowed throughout my stay in India." To see the entire quote, see the blog post "Mahatma Gandhi ---- Under Surveillance?") human rights leaders of all time: Mohandas "Mahatma" K. Gandhi.

(Source: Scan from my copy of Gandhi: An Autobiography, published by Beacon Press (owned by Unitarian Universalist Association, another favorite place of mine)
 

"Whenever I despair, I remember that the way of truth and love has always won. There may be tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they may seem invincible, but in the end, they always fail. Think of it: always."

Source: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083987/quotes?qt=qt0282925

First Day - And I Have a Song for You

Hi, and thanks for coming. If organized stalking and electronic harassment is something you experience on a regular basis, I bet the humiliating aspect of these crimes (being watched during private moments, etc.) can wear you down and you may feel things like rage, shame and anger. I have something that may help: Music therapy, and what is music without a little dancing involved. 

I bet you haven't done this in a while:

Strut

And here is the perfect song for your music therapy.

Seriously, do it (strut) along with Adam, and belt those vocal cords of yours no matter whoever and whatever tech is "watching" you. ;-)

Enjoy!

- ATI4Hope

"Strut" by Adam Lambert (AOL Live)

I want to start a revolution

A type of personal solution

We all have got our own pollution

It's all about the execution

You got something to say, your hands are tied, open your mouth, open it wide

Let the freedom begin

Get on the floor, just let it drive, don't it feel good, don't it feel hot?

Feel the fire within

I wanna see you strut, strut, strut, come on walk for me

Strut, strut, strut, how you wanna be

Everybody's looking for some love, but they don't know

How to let it all hang out and that's why they're solo

Solo, solo, don't wanna be solo

Solo, solo, don't wanna be solo

We're a complicated nation

And now we're in a situation

Let's take a Maybelline vacation

And get yourself some validation

You got something to say, your hands are tied, open your mouth, open it wide

Let the freedom begin

Get on the floor, just let it drive, don't it feel good, don't it feel hot?

Feel the fire within

I wanna see you strut, strut, strut, come on walk for me

Strut, strut, strut, how you wanna be

Everybody's looking for some love, but they don't know

How to let it all hang out and that's why they're solo

Solo, solo, don't wanna be solo

Solo, solo, don't wanna be solo

I'll be your mirror

Darling, let your hair down

Show me what you're working with

And let me see you

Strut, strut

Strut, strut, how you wanna be

Everybody's looking for some love, but they don't know

How to let it all hang out and that's why they're solo

Solo, solo, don't wanna be solo

Solo, solo, don't wanna be solo

Strut for me and show me what you're working with

Strut for me and show me what you're working with