The 2012 Indigo Ribbon Campaign
The First in the Targeted Individual Activism Series:
Targeted Individuals Address US Bioethics Committee
Transcript: From The Bioethics Committee Website
For Translation
DR. GUTMANN:
And to maximize the time for anybody in the
audience to make a comment, raise a question, we are going to not break
and move right into public comments. And so there is a roving
microphone. Somebody — Who has the microphone? Can I see who has the
microphone? Okay. So people don’t have to crawl over each other.
And
if you would keep your comments brief, I would be very appreciative.
Because if you don’t, I’m afraid I have to make time for others. Just
give us one moment, please.
We have been timing, keeping all of our speakers to time, too. And that is the apparatus.
MS. BONHAM:
If
I can clarify. We had a number of people who asked to speak and we had a
public sign-in at the front table as we communicated throughout the
past few weeks with people who asked to speak.
Consequently
to all of you wonderful people in line, I am sorry to say I am going to
go in order of this list. So everybody could actually just sit down
please and I will call the list and I will bring this to you. Okay?
Thank you so much.
DR. GUTMANN:
Please,
Val, start. And I would ask each person after Val calls you and you come
up, if you could just introduce yourself to us, we would be very
appreciative of that. Thank you.
MS. BONHAM:
Wonderful. So the first person I have is Michael S. Perfect. Thank you so much.
MR. SHANEYFELT:
My
name is Michael Shaneyfelt. I am from Birmingham, Alabama. The question
that I brought to the Board is that in 2000 I was approached by a Navy
sub diver and he brought to my attention the use of an auditory weapon
that he stole from the United States Navy. He told me about this weapon
that he stole from the Navy and he told me how the weapon would affect
the central nervous system of a human. And he wanted me to go out and
assist him in certain things.
And in 2006, my life
changed. I woke up one day and I got a strong electrical shock in the
center of my chest. From that, I started to have problems with my heart.
I started having bigeminies, irregular rhythms. I went into the
hospital. The doctors determined that I was getting an electrical shock
through my chest.
Then I went in and had an
operation done, an ablation. And with all this, it just keeps going on.
From then it went to my lungs and then from there it went to my kidneys.
From there it went to my bladder. From there it went to my colon and it
keeps going on and on and on.
Medically I have
been looked at and reviewed over and over and over again. My brother, he
is a doctor. My sister, she is a nurse. My nephew is a nurse. And I
have got people that have talked to me about medical situations and
medical views. And I know exactly what is occurring is wrong and I feel
like I am a test subject. And I have responded to the government and the
government responded back to me but I have not seen no action.
I have given you all a report and you all can look at the letters that I have sent in.
MR. SCHATZ:
Thank
you. My name is Gerald Schatz and I am a lawyer and retired professor,
Assistant Professor of Ethics and Law at Michigan State University. I
want to address two things very quickly.
One is
the theme of vulnerability and its recognition. We have gone from an era
of very reflective and I think very decent recognition of the moral
obligations of researchers to an era of discussion of regulatory burden.
I think that is unseemly.
The second point is
that there is law out there. The bioethics community has been oblivious
to it but there is international law. There is the International
Covenant on Civil and Political Rights the United States ratified in
1992 and it makes informed consent an absolute requirement, no
exceptions, not even in emergencies, subject to those normal legal
fictions of consenting for the incapacitated patient to medical care and
so forth.
Additionally, the Geneva Conventions
and additional protocols to the Geneva Conventions make research very,
very difficult or prohibited altogether for those individuals who are
caught up in the war and armed conflicts.
Michigan
State University faculty responded to the OHRP request for comment in
2005 on equivalent protections. I will be pleased to provide that
comment and those citations and some additional materials to the
Commission. Thank you.
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you.
MR. RYAN:
Thank you very much. My name is Cina Ryan. I am an American. I have been living here since 1976.
To
answer the question the chair lady that is it still going to happen or
is it still going on, I will assure you that there is still
experimentation going on and one of live is standing right here.
I
strongly believe that I have been targeted for the experimentation of
brain research since September 2008, without my consent. They are
controlling my mind and using electronic remote control device to send
instruction. In the past two and a half years, I have been subjected to
constant electric shock, a sleep disturbance, a sleep deprivation, short
breaths, severe localized pain into various parts of my body, telephone
and bell rings in my ears, heat waves through my body, horrifying
dreams, creating sudden fear and worries in my mind.
They
do these mostly when I am inside my apartment but sometimes all this
happens, some of this happens when I am outside without I am seeing
anybody or any device. This experimentation are done to me without any
touch or anything or see anybody.
This inhuman and
painful method of torture include reading my thoughts and memories. To
this, they have been able to control me and subject me to severe pain
that I have been suffering for the past 29 months. My health has
deteriorated during this time and I have no medical insurance to
significant help. My life is in danger and I need your help from the
government. And I am only asking them to stop this painful torture and
leave me alone so I can go back to my life. Thank you.
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you.
STAFFER:
Dr. John Hall.
DR. HALL:
My
name is Dr. John Hall. I am a medical doctor from Texas. As I
understand the memorandum from the President, it is for you to determine
if current legislation is adequate in protecting individuals and if
there is any ongoing experimentation.
In reviewing
the Common Rule, it is very obvious that there is a lot of loop holes
to informed consent. All of the horrific experiments you have mentioned,
Willowbrook, MKULTRA, radiation experiments, mostly were done without
informed consent. They were funded by the DoD and intelligence agencies
where I am not even so sure you would know if there is an IRB, much less
if an IRB is looking at informed consent.
As a
physician, relative to some of what you are hearing today, in the
community we are seeing an alarming rate of complaints of use of
electromagnetic weapons. Microwave auditory effects, silent sound
spectrum, EEG cloning, which has taken the lab out of the laboratory and
into the home. Most of these from the research that we have reviewed
can be done remotely. It seems to be more weapons research than medical
research.
I personally corresponded with upwards
of 1500 victims all complaining of identical complaints from every state
in the nation of being exposed to electromagnetic radiation,
non-ionizing radiation for the use of cognitive control or behavior
control.
I submitted a paper to you and there is
another paper submitted to each member from another physician in Kansas
City alluding to the same thing.
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you.
STAFFER:
Ms. Millicent Black.
MS. BLACK:
My
name is Millicent Black. I am from Tennessee, possibly a trans-generational person whose family members have been used for at
least three generations and I am the second one. My Dad possibly was the
first one who was admitted to a Nashville Hospital with a pineal gland
tumor left there with a plate in the back of his head, not the front of
his head where his pineal gland would have been.
At
his death, I sought — Well actually before his death I sought legal
counsel for some horrendous treatment he had received at a nursing home
that was also partnering with that hospital in Nashville, only to find
out that a judge told the attorneys to drop that case.
I
am a part of the group that is here today representing those who are
receiving the electromagnetic torture and even my daughter at five
months old was referred to that same Nashville Hospital after having
been refused treatment at the local hospital. I believe she is also a
victim of the electromagnetic torture. Where does this stop? When are we
re-given our rights as humans and as citizens? Does being African
Americans qualify us as non-Black or non-White, and non-American
citizens or non-American people? We seem to have a double blind going.
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you.
STAFFER:
Mr. Marshall? Mrs. Marshall.
MS. MARSHALL:
Good
afternoon. My name is Connie Marshall. I am a former mayoral candidate
from Louisville, Kentucky. I have never been involved in any criminal
activity. I found a document in my bank account that said problem with
Kentucky government. Check federal government paperwork in file before
releasing information to anyone.
I am an eight
year victim survivor of assaults by directed energy weapons. The torture
I have experienced consists of body overheating, body extremely cold,
seizures, heart pain, earaches, itching behind eyes, burning behind
eyes, swelling, headaches, involuntary movement of my limbs, exhaustion,
speeding and heart racing, hair coming out by the handfuls as if I have
had chemotherapy, mind paralysis, being hypnotized or being placed in a
trance-type state, being tracked by a drone or satellite, controlled
dreams, sleep deprivation, V2K which is voice to skull, projected sound,
extreme muscle spasms and extreme muscle cramps; being made to fall
down; blue circles around the pupils of my eyes and I am here and you
can look at them if you like; low frequency noises in my home; high
frequency noises in my home; sexual stimulation. Numerous electrical
appliances in my home are destroyed; four computers, two fax machines,
seven telephones, four CD players, VCR, DVD players, the electrical
igniter switch on my furnace, washer and dryer, air conditioner. Also my
car radio, CD player and engine were destroyed. I am watched in my home
24 hours a day and followed around everywhere I go, though I do not
have a criminal history.
When I ran for Mayor of my town, I was also attacked at debates and forums. My website is
www.justiceforallcitizens.com. Thank you. And I would like to leave you with these flyers as well. Thank you.
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you.
STAFFER:
Mr. Allen Hornblum.
MR. HORNBLUM:
My
name is Allen Hornblum. I am a Philadelphia-based author who has
written books on things running the gambit from organized crime to
Soviet espionage. But for the purposes of this meeting, I have written
two books on the history of using prison inmates as test subjects. You
may be familiar with one or both of them.
I am
working with a couple colleagues now on the history of using
institutionalized children as test subjects for research. And I can
assure you some of the material I am finding is quite astounding,
including the fact that Nobel Prize winners went to institutions for the
feeble minded to use them as test subjects.
And
in interviewing people over the years, not just test subjects which I do
on a regular basis, but also the doctors who initiated these
experiments, these clinical trials. I am talking about people like
Albert Kligman and Hilary Koprowski, Chester Southam, some of the top
researchers of the twentieth century, most of them are famous but some
are infamous. It is remarkable that almost all of them articulate how
little medical ethics was taught in medical schools at the time. And I
had to bring up, I had to educate one of them, in fact, about the
Nuremberg Code. When I mentioned it, he wasn’t even familiar with it.
These
problems with regard to medical ethics are still there. I periodically
give talks at Universities in med schools and it is stunning to me that
when I go into a book store at the university and go in, maybe I will
see one of my books there. Of course I am a little bit disturbed when
they don’t, but I also don’t see anything by Harriet Washington or by
James Jones, Bad Blood, or by Jonathan Moreno’s book. Medical ethics is
an orphan in today’s medical arena. It is out there in left field. They
really deemphasize it and that is part of the continuing problem.
The
doctors, as Dan said earlier when they do these studies, it is a cost
benefit analysis and there is much more benefit to doing research, even
when it breaks rules and laws and cuts corners than by following the
rules. And that is why I believe the Commission has to make a very
strong condemnation of Dr. Cutler and the institutions and doctors that
he worked with, not just with regard to Tuskegee and Guatemala but there
are so many other incidents and events out there.
As
Susan said, we will continue to discover these. There will be another
commission like yours in ten years going over what you didn’t look at or
what you didn’t do. So I would encourage you to be as aggressive as
possible, not just describe what happened but really condemn those who
broke the law because there are doctors making decisions right now and
those decisions are going the wrong way. Thank you.
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you.
STAFFER:
Ms. Debra Poulson or Debra Paulson.
MS. POULSEN
Hi, I am Debra Poulsen from Kenosha, Wisconsin.
I
am going to refer to a paper from Professor McCoy at the University of
Wisconsin on no-touch torture. He talks about a total assault on all
senses and sensibilities, auditory, visual, tactile, temporal,
temperature, and survival, refined through years of practice. Sensory
disorientation relies on a mix of sensory overload and sensory
deprivation via banal procedures, isolation, by intense interrogation,
heat and cold, light and dark, noise and silence or a systematic attack
on all human stimuli.
I have been a human subject
for experimentation for almost two years and I stand with, I have
contacted Dr. Hall, I stand with a very large group. Excuse me I am very
nervous but I am very tired of having my rights taken away. And thank
you for hearing me and thank you for the others. I would like some help.
Thank you.
[Audience Applause]
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you.
STAFFER:
Ms. Lisa Becker.
MS. BECKER:
Thank
you. My name is Lisa Becker. I am also from Wisconsin. I have been a
non-consenting test subject in military medical research. I, too,
believe my experience is referred to as no-touch torture, utilize
defense technologies.
Jonathan Moreno, he basically predicted all this a number of years ago in his book Undue Risk.
I
am asking you to help initiate a congressional investigation. We have
all come a long way. This is what is needed. We want to have the
accounts of this extreme human rights abuse that is going on in our
country documented and heard, all of the accounts.
We
also need what was done during the Clinton administration, which is a
major declassification of some of these documents that are hiding what
has been going on.
I speak for many when I say we
have suffered long enough. My personal experience has been ten years. I
have been vilified. I have been tortured. I have burns on my body. I am
an American. I have rights.
The answer to the
question, the big question today, could it happen today, the answer is
yes. It is happening today. It is happening for some of us every day.
I am begging for you to help us. Thank you.
[Audience Applause]
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you.
STAFFER:
Mr. James Wollet — Walbert.
MR. WALBERT:
My
name is James Wollet. To date, I have one of the strongest cases
documented of these unethical violations against our society.
Due
to the facts of having the kinds of professionals that I have involved
with this case, I have been able to prove that this crime against others
and myself is real and shows reason to be concerned with.
I
am in hopes that I am able to prove the same thing to this committee
and by the introduction of the evidence that I have to introduce to the
committee, I and the professionals that are standing with myself in this
crime, would like for this committee to consider the introduction of
these documents with the growing concern of this crime to the President
for his review.
With these hopes in mind for this
consideration, I would also like to ask of this committee to consider an
investigation into these unethical violations of others and myself that
are affected by this crime.
With this
consideration of this investigation I request into these matters, I
would also like to point out the abuses of children that have been
documented by the many professionals that I am currently working with
into these matters of this crime. To date, the professionals have been
documenting these offenses against the children that are related to the
many victims of these crimes. They have proven this concern to be valid
as I am pointing out to this committee. The growing concern of fellow
states that have now passed laws against forced chipping of an RFID
tracking chip. These states have now passed such bills into law.
Colorado House Bill 071082; North Dakota Senate Bill 2415; Oklahoma
State Senate Bill 47, House Bill 072092; Missouri House Bill 550;
Pennsylvania Bill; Georgia Senate Bill 235; and the list just goes on.
I
was also wanting to ask if I could provide a portfolio of introduction
of 12 professionals from political support to medical investigations, as
well as private investigative support to committee as well for review.
DR. GUTMANN:
You may. Thank you very much.
MR. WALBERT:
Thank you.
[Audience Applause]
STAFFER:
Mr. Peter Rosen.
MR. ROSENHOLM:
Hi,
I am Peter Rosenholm. I am from Rhode Island. Like all the others, we
go through this every day, at least 14 years now of being tortured. It
is non-consensual human experimentation. It is remote. It is covert. It
is hard to prove it a lot of times. Many of my attacks were microwave
weapons, MEDUSA is one.
In all the hospital
statements when I was hospitalized, I told of being hit by radiation
weapons, that I could hear voices. MEDUSA now admits to all those
capabilities.
I am also in the Naval War Colleges
Congressional District and I have got falsely diagnosed, drugged. I have
pretty much proven all that wrong. I am off all the medication but I am
still tortured. It goes on every day and it goes on every day for all
of these people. What I would like is for us to have a participation on
your committee for someone from our group to actually participate. I am
wondering if that is possible because we are the victims. We are like
the Guatemalans who were tortured. Is there a chance that that can
happen? Did you hear me?
DR. GUTMANN:
You are —
MR. ROSENHOLM:
Is there a chance that a group or an individual from us can be on the committee?
DR. GUTMANN:
We
are constituted by the President as a Commission and we have public
comment and you can write us and we will read everything you give us.
MR. ROSENHOLM:
Right.
DR. GUTMANN:
It is the President who — President Obama appoints the Commission.
MR. ROSENHOLM:
The
other thing we deal with is like a
COINTELPRO attack. Law enforcement
attacks us, discredits us, will put us in a mental hospital if we try
too hard. These people all don’t want to go to doctors. The Patriot Act
has provisions what doctors have to follow what they say. So all of
these people aren’t getting their teeth fixed, aren’t going for medical
care. We are in a bad situation.
Thank you.
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you.
STAFFER:
Mr. Kenneth Rhoads or Rhands. Mr. Kenneth Rhoads.
(No response.)
STAFFER
Ms. Letitia Peters.
MS. PETERS:
Madame
Chair, members of the Bioethics Committee, my name is Letitia Peters
and I am from Trenton, New Jersey. I was a federal government employee
working 16 years as an electronics engineer right here in Washington,
D.C. where I got sick due to toxic metal exposure. And when I started
complaining about it and using my rights, I believe now after five years
of being out of the government, after 16 years of service, that I was
put into this 24/7 execution chamber. And I, too, am looking for
congressional investigations. I should be covered under the Whistle
Protection Blowers Act and I, too, would like to submit documentation
which I presented.
And I have been denied medical
treatment. I have been disregarded as being nonhuman. All my rights have
been violated. My parents and I are living together now in Trenton, New
Jersey, and there are low-flying aircrafts dropping biological weapons
over our houses every day in order to try to kill me. And I just want to
demonstrate some of the evidence that I have and provide to you because
I have been trying to get to the President but I know all of my
information has been rerouted.
So I, too, am requesting a congressional investigation as well. And may I present this information to you?
DR. GUTMANN:
You may. Thank you very much.
STAFFER:
Ms. Tammy Battaglia.
MS. BATTAGLIA
Hi,
my name is Tammy Battaglia. I have been enrolled in psychological
experiments on the record since the age of 13 without my consent.
I
have spent many years recovering from experimental hypnosis, physical
and biological testing that I have undergone during decades of tests
conducted by government-funded doctors, corporate think tanks and
researchers.
I have experienced tremendous loss
and trauma over the years of subjection to non-consensual
experimentation, which has been devastating to my life. The people
conducting experiments on other human beings do not consider the
horribly destructive ramifications that they are subjecting victims to.
As a result, there is no rehabilitation after experiments. No
consideration is given to the often severe, psychological and physical
trauma suffered by non-consensual tests subjects almost continuously.
Many
victims such as myself are diagnosed with nonexistent mental illnesses
and as a result, we are expected to take dangerous medications that we
do not need. There is no way to seek justice for what we have endured
because in America, the land of the free, justice is not free.
The
experiments violate every right imaginable and offer no restitution
whatsoever. If myself or any other victim approaches law enforcement or
government agencies, we are spurned and in some cases forcibly taken to
mental institutions. I have not consented to be experimented on by any
branch of the government, military, or members of the American Medical
Association.
The initial experiments unfolded from
decisions that were made for me when I was a child at a time when I was
unable to understand what I was being volunteered for or what the
consequences would be. I deserve to be vindicated and released from
these experiments immediately, as do all of us. Thank you.
[Audience Applause]
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you.
STAFFER:
Ms. Rose Gapinski.
MS. GAPINSKI:
Amy,
I love your question of us to try to figure out what the big problem
is, to really analyze and get to the root of it. And I thought at first
it was containment, which leads to things like false flags to confuse
people. It leads to harassing people to discredit them or disable them,
the TIs that is, the victims. It leads to possible corruption, secrecy,
possible fear of going to prison on the part of the people that are
executing these things.
And then I realized
underneath the containment, the secrecy-containment umbrella, is a
really glaring inability of the U.S. to ever apologize for anything. To
be able to say I am sorry, the rest of the world is waiting for us to
say I’m sorry or I admit to something. I have flaws. Everyone does. And
contrary to the Pentagon myth that you should not do that to be strong,
contrary to that myth, it makes a person stronger. Therefore, it will
also make a country stronger. Other countries would very much appreciate
it.
Say, you know, I’m sorry, two seconds of silence and then we can go on with life.
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you.
[Audience Applause]
STAFFER:
Mr. Jeremy Radlow.
MR. RADLAR:
My
name is Jeremy Radlar. I am here to tell you that non-consensual human
experimentation is happening in the United States today. I have been the
subject of this experimentation for more than five years.
Calling
these activities experimentation is truthful but possibly distracting. I
think the criteria governing the selection of experimentees will prove
to be a much bigger scandal than the experimentation itself.
The
psychological torture protocol that is part of the so-called
experimentation includes, but is not limited to, the use of non-lethal
weapons and mind-invasive technology. Sleep deprivation, pain center
stimulation, and worse are used against subjects.
While
some experimentees have found foreign objects in their bodies
suggesting implantation, most have not. Receiverless mind-invasive
technology has been demonstrated under laboratory conditions but the
most likely explanation is that experimentees are implanted with foreign
objects either too small to appear on commercially available scanning
equipment or designed to be indistinguishable from the surrounding
tissue. These activities are highly deceptive, use clandestine
technology, and have the fingerprints of the CIA all over them.
It
is unreasonable to expect isolated individuals receiving this treatment
to furnish proof. A thorough investigation is warranted. Thanks for
your time.
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you very much.
[Audience Applause]
STAFFER:
Ms. Kathryn Nestor.
MS. NESTOR:
My name is Kathryn Nestor and I am from Pennsylvania.
This
Commission has spoken of a long history of abuse of the human research
subject. Although no one mentioned MKULTRA today, President Clinton
recently apologized for this.
My young child and I
have been used as nonconsensual test subjects. We have been subjected
to COINTELPRO‑like stalking, remote neuromonitoring and electromagnetic
torture, resulting in psychological and physical damage. And I won’t go
into the details of that because I have four pages written in here. It
is very similar to Connie’s testimony.
Please do
not wait 70 years to investigate this. I ask Dr. Amy Gutmann to begin
today. There is new work for the Commission for human subject protection
on our shores. And please give us a dramatic response, Susan. And
please give us a congressional hearing. Thank you.
[Audience Applause]
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you.
STAFFER:
Ms. Miriam Snyder.
MS. SNYDER:
Hello.
My name is Miriam Snyder. I am an educator, minister, human rights
advocate. I work with many people that have suffered the ramifications
of unregulated deadly human research experimentation. Since I have
brought this to the public, I have become a victim, too. In fact in the
past I was. I have three questions I would like the Commission to answer
and then I would like to submit some recommendations so that we do not
have to go through this type of forum of listening, listening, and then
we have to rush this serious assassination program. Human research
experimentation is being used to assassinate innocent people and I think
it is time that it takes much more than two minutes to rush up. I
resent it. I spent my time. I listened and I ask that you listen.
Foremost,
since Guatemala and Tuskegee experiments, it is understood that human
research experimentation via particularly injections on innocent people
is understood that these things are going on. I would like the
Commission to address what is being done to stop the continuance of
non-verifiable injections being used on people.
I
would like to know, the Commission to address, what penalties and
protections are in place for researchers. The incarceration of
researchers who create deadly weapons and viruses. What is going to be
done to stop the deadly created man-made viruses getting out the
laboratory to human bodies? And when are we going to start incarcerating
researchers? All right?
Number three. Who
supervises energy technology, specifically electronic torture? That is a
major issue. Just hold on. I waited two days. Electronic torture. All
these people are here talking about they are being tortured. They are in
a slow-kill program via radiation. The cleft lip babies are coming out
through radiation programs. The studies show it. I have submitted
documentation. We have cleft lip babies because of unregulated radiation
studies. What is going to be done to stop this?
These
people are suffering because of unregulated radiation studies, human
research experiments. And the funding is immense and people are dying.
What is going to be done to stop it? Okay.
With
respect to neuroimaging, I found a tremendous amount of research
regarding injection-induced seizures. Why is human research allowing
experiments that allow injection-induced seizures and through electronic
technology?
Now my recommendation. I would hope
that this committee could launch a specific committee to address these
issues with human rights experts, genocide specialists, people who have
studied mass murders; that it is understood that these things do happen
through genocide and I can give you a list of people that have
documentaries on this; and to investigate the citizen complaints
regarding mind control weapons, in particular energy technology via
satellite; induced seizures via satellite; microwave auditory effect
weapon; all government-sponsored psychological operations; microchipping
through injections.
Above all, we seek the
creation of a means for injections to be verified before entering the
human body and prosecution for anyone using these deadly tactics to harm
the people. And we seek compensation for all the victims who have filed
affidavit after affidavit documenting the atrocities involved with
unregulated and deadly human research experimentation that they have
suffered as a direct result of these criminal human research and the
whistle blowers who have exposed this.
Thank you
very much and please have a forum where we don’t have to do this rush
up. I waited two days and I don’t like being rushed like this, I really
don’t. Thank you.
[Audience Applause]
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you very much.
STAFFER:
Mr. Nigel Nicholson.
MR. NICHOLSON:
Hi,
good evening. My name is Nigel Nicholson and I have been in a
psychological coercive mind control program. This started in 2002 when I
was falsely arrested, I was drugged, and I believe I was hypnotized.
Soon after that, I was being harassed by the police department, along
with noise campaign that was being committed by the New York City Fire
Department. I mean, for a whole year, every time I left my house, I was
bombarded with noise which led me to have a psychological breakdown. I
have been job mobbed. I have been put into what I call an
assassination-type program. I have been villianized. My friends have
totally retreated from me, even though I have continuously reached out
to them.
I have been under what I believe is
neuromonitoring. When I can think of something and go outside and
somebody will walk by me and repeat what I just said, I know I am not
crazy. Okay? Regardless of what is being said, they made the victims of
these programs to be diagnosed with a psychological illness to hide
these crimes because we all know that to discredit an individual, if you
give them a mental illness or diagnose them with a mental illness, no
one is going to believe us. No one is going to believe you or I and this
is how they are hiding these crimes.
[Audience Applause]
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you, sir.
STAFFER:
Ms. Micheline Jones.
MS. JONES:
Hello,
my name is Micheline Jones. I am right here from D.C. I live in public
housing and I mention that because this where most of the poor people
are at, especially these days with the way the economy is going.
I
am the subject of MKULTRA mind control. I am also the subject of
electromagnetic radiation and I have many videos to prove it. I have
taken these videos to newspapers and to various places even including
what is that CDC and everyone has just turned away as if this is
hush-hush. I have had lawyers deny me assistance because they said this
is too big.
So in research I found out that the
former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney asked for reinvestigation under
her resolution H.R. 1026 to re-investigate COINTEL activities. I am
constantly stalked. There is many covert activities that have followed
me. Sleep deprivation, I don’t have that too much now because I force
myself, clocks, radios, too much liquids at night, whatever, just to get
up and get out of the house.
I have asked public
housing from the executive director all the way down to fair hearing
which is still pending right now to get me out of this place but now I
am beginning to wonder would it do any good. I have relocated three or
four times and I had a deputy officer or a county officer tell me this
will follow you. So when they pick their subjects, this goes with you.
I
would like all of this medical abuse to be investigated and, if
possible, for you to get back with us. I didn’t know about this meeting
until yesterday and I do appreciate you letting me have this time to
speak. Thank you.
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you, Ms. Jones.
STAFFER:
Mr. Timothy White.
MR. WHITE:
I
would like to thank the Commission for allowing the public to address
these issues. And it has been a lot of information and it has been very
good and enlightening. And I see I am in the right place to provide the
information I have.
And yes, the Tuskegee
experiments are still going on and the Guatemala experiments are still
going on. But they are going on because of the advances in the signals
technology and in cognitive neurological technology and
neurophysiological experimentation in research and advances in that
technology is allowing these things to happen and creating a new class
of vulnerabilities for citizens who cannot protect themselves against
this.
We provide citizens who are currently
nonconsensual victims of cognitive neuroscience in neurophysiological
research and experimentation which is enabled remotely through extremely
low frequency computer to brain entrainment technology — This
technology exists and can be verified on subjects with a high degree of
accuracy, using current neuroimaging technologies.
Okay,
this is an atrocity that has gone on for years. And like the Tuskegee
experiments, it is clearly within the scope of this Commission. If there
is any doubt as to the validity of these claims then this Commission
can conduct its own independent investigation by using functional brain
imaging techniques.
We ask that the Committee,
just because of the existence of our organization, Freedom from Covert
Harassment and Surveillance, alone we have thousands of people who have
contacted us claiming to be victims of this. Our existence is
justification that you should investigate this occurrence further.
We
need test developed to determine if a citizen has been harmed by a
cognitive weapon. These are cognitive weapons that somehow these people
are being experimented on with. And just overall, you need to ban the
unethical use of science and technology on all citizens for any reason
and in any form. Thank you.
DR. GUTMANN
Thank you.
FEMALE PARTICIPANT:
May I put my name on the list?
DR. GUTMANN:
I don’t have the list.
FEMALE PARTICIPANT:
Well
what happened was I called in and found out it would be opened up to
actually be able to speak to be put on the list. And when I got here, I
wasn’t informed that there was a list that I actually had to sign up. I
am asking for a minute.
DR. GUTMANN
Yes, you may have a minute. We have about five minutes left.
FEMALE PARTICIPANT
Okay. Well, I will take five minutes.
DR. GUTMANN
No, no.
(Laughter.)
DR. GUTMANN
If there is somebody else. Okay, thank you.
FEMALE PARTICIPANT
I will try.
DR. GUTMANN
Absolutely. Thank you.
FEMALE PARTICIPANT
As
you see, we have, actually this is a minority of us. Approximately
let’s say I have spoken to probably 3,000 people. He is on probably
1,500, he is on 5,000. There is a lot of us across the U.S. And there
are certain statistics I think that if you find that there is something
going on wrong, that you are going on wrong, that somewhere along the
line, somebody has to do an investigation. If there is a certain
percentage of illness. You do an investigation. If there is a certain
amount of cancers in the area, the same as Brockovich went and did the
investigation, she found a certain amount. Well, we are presenting our
case right now. You said you guys wanted to be in the know. We are
giving you the information now so that you are in the know.
There
is something going on. It is an electromagnetic issue and it has to do
with from cell phones all the way to directed energy. And I think
yesterday some of the colleagues went ahead and said that we didn’t
really talk about whether there is energy weapons or not but I mean, we
have thousands and thousands of documentations about energy weapons
themselves and all we are asking for is an investigation on this. People
are being harmed. People are being tortured and people are being
killed. And I think it is a pretty important thing for a bioethics
committee to look into. And all we ask today is to please do that. And
mark on March first 2011 we came to you and we told you. And I don’t
know how many more people. My friends are dead. Tortured to death by
electronic weapons and I don’t know how many more people will die. And I
hope I will be here again if you have this next year.
DR. GUTMANN
Thank you very much.
STAFFER
That is the end of the list.
DR. GUTMANN
Are we —
STAFFER:
That is the end of the list.
DR. GUTMANN
Okay. One minute. Thank you.
MALE PARTICIPANT
I
am going to do the best that I can while being hurt by a national
defense weapon that our country built. I love our country but I am in
contact and have been with the Chief of the Department of Defense Fraud,
Waste and Abuse hotline. He has worked with me and my wife for two
years. And he went to the Pentagon after we were aerosol-ed by a jet at
150 to 200 miles per hour, that being me and my wife. That is why my
face is rebuilt and she is at home taking care of a hundred head of
cattle with a brain tumor. I have had three removed.
I
guess my point would be this, is that I stood up to this program, and
that would be the joint operations system that our country built with a
nonlethal, less than lethal weapons system. And I am the only one known
in the world, besides the people that helped build this system, to have
this actual pulse on camera and have caught it. And I would like to
submit that disk.
But I would guess that the one question I would have — It’s okay, Eli. You don’t have to beat me up with the microphone.
The
one question I would add is first of all, I would like to submit this
to you as promptly as possible and then ask each and every one of you
that 90 percent of the people that approached you spoke the same way I
am, scared but also spoke — They are speaking of directed energy
weapons. That was phased out with a nonlethal and less than lethal
programs. And we all know that. Most of you do anyways.
Would you please help save my life, ma’am?
[Audience Applause]
DR. GUTMANN
Please submit what you have and we will do what we can. Thank you.
MALE PARTICIPANT
And your name?
DR. GUTMANN
My name —
MALE PARTICIPANT
Yes, ma’am.
DR. GUTMANN
— is Dr. Amy Gutmann.
MALE PARTICIPANT
Dr.
Amy Goodman, I am going to submit that to you and if I die from this,
then I am quite sure somebody else will look at the evidence. Thank you
for your time.
DR. GUTMANN
Thank you.
MALE PARTICIPANT
I appreciate it, ma’am.
