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DR.
WAGNER: Where is Steve and Barbara? In order that we maximize the time
that we have available, I think we ought to get going. This is the
public comments session. You know, a couple of process issues, first of
all, to remind folks that the Commission staff published an invitation
prior to this meeting in the Federal Register inviting comment. I
understand there was something on the order of 300 people who wish to
offer comment. We’ll obviously not get 300 in the next 45 minutes, but
the plan is to ask and in fact, I think responders or rather the public
commentators have been notified.
And the plan is that Mr. [WON CHUCK?] back here has the list of folks
that will be offering comment. And maybe the thing to do is to just dive
into that. I want to remind you before we do that the Commission of
course is charged by President Obama to be looking at bioethical issues
generated by novel and emerging research in biomedicine and related
areas of science and technology and to promote policies and practices
that assure ethical responsibility.
And, remind you that the specific charge on this meeting has been
around looking on the topic of federal standards regarding human
subjects research. So with that background, and each person I believe
has a minute and a half is the way we’ve been able to try and cram in as
many comments as possible. So, Juan, if you’re ready for the first?
JUAN: Ms. Cassandra Lewis? Hi, Ms. Lewis.
MS. LEWIS: Okay, thank you. Good afternoon. My name is Cassandra
Lewis and I’m a targeted individual from Baltimore, Maryland. My story
may sound disjointed. I’m trying to keep it within the minute and a
half. I worked as a legal secretary at Hogan and Hartson in Washington
D.C. It is now called Hogan Lovells.
Attorney Jan McDavid made a client mistake that she tried to blame on
me. I then refused to work for Ms. McDavid. Shortly thereafter, strange
and inexplicable events occurred on my job. And after being fired,
followed me to my home and to all my travels.
Attorney Christopher J. Hagen, formerly of Hogan and Hartson, Mr.
Samuel Conrad, he’s a retired security administrator of Hogan and
Hartson, and Robert Johnston, who is the current firm administrator of
Hogan and Lovells are responsible for my targeting.
I believe to protect Ms. McDavid’s reputation, a phone call was made
to whom and why they did this to me, I truly just speculate. Gang
stalking and harassment was used to implement this nonconsensual
biotechnology application that is being used on me.
I now experience involuntary limb movements. I receive stingings. I
get pains to my head, to my abdomen, to my vaginal area and to my anal
area. I am receiving from a language that I read concerning this
technology, it is called Medusa, developed by the Navy is being used on
me.
I get burning on my lower legs and my ankles. I get ringing in my ears
that’s pitch is like they pitch it. I get pulsing sensations in my
body. I get an electrical current, an electrical sensation that goes up
and down through my body and can be isolated to different parts of my
body.
I get severe tingling on the soles of my feet. I’m almost done. It’s
almost like being electrocuted, and the first time I experienced this
was walking into a bank. I get buzzing sensations on the soles of my
feet and individual toes. I also get facial manipulations, just to name a
few of the things that happen to me.
I feel as though I am being roboticized. These are very strange
occurrences and I would like for all the targeted individuals in this
room to stand up and to show yourself. My story is similar to a lot of
these people. WOMAN 1: Yeah. JUAN: Mr. Eric Suba?
MR. SUBA: Thank you. I’m a physician and cervical cancer prevention
in developing countries is my life’s work. I previously outlined my
concerns in written form to Valerie Bonham and to Adam Michaels.
My concerns are regarding ongoing studies of cervical cancer
prevention currently being conducted in India. These studies include
scientifically gratuitous control groups of unscreened women, and it
includes scientifically gratuitous measurements of cervical cancer death
rates among over 100,000 Indian women who are not being provided with
any cervical cancer prevention services at all.
These studies have been funded continuously since 1997 by the NCI and
by the Bill and Linda Gates Foundation. I’d like to offer a testable
hypothesis that if these studies had been reviewed by any one of this
afternoon’s panelists, they’d be found without exception to be unethical
by each of the panelists.
I’d also like to offer the testable hypothesis to the Commission that
these ongoing Indian studies could serve as a valuable prism through
which to identify improvement opportunities for human subjects
protections.
And finally, I’d like to offer my own technical consultative services
to the Commission, as well as those of my colleagues in Vietnam and
other developing countries, if the Commission should find a more
grassroots perspective to be valuable. Thank you.
JUAN: Mr.Thelmas McClelland?
MR. MCCLELLAND: I am 59 years old from New York City. I’ve been a
victim of ongoing nonconsensual human subject experimentation for my
entire adult life, and possibly may have been a victim since my
childhood.
I have been targeted with ongoing microwave weapons, as well as
drugging with neurotoxic contaminants covertly placed on articles of
clothing, as well as on other personal possessions.
I believe my being a nonconsensual human test subject is related to
the CIA’s MK Alter Behavior Modification Program that began in the
1950’s. Moreover, after I read a July 1963 CIA MK Alter Report that
became unclassified in 1994, and emphasized that it would be necessary
to test unwitting citizens in their ordinary day activities without
their knowledge in the final stage of the testing program, I believe
that I could be one of those many thousands of civilians that were
unwittingly tested in the CIA’s behavior modification program.
WOMAN 2: [UNINTEL – OFF MIC].
MR. MCCLELLAND: Getting the government to take action concerning
acknowledgement and putting an end to unethical consensual human
experimentation that has also been a part of our country’s past history
is of great concern to me.
I believe that there has been other members of my family that were victims also.
WOMAN 3: Very good.
JUAN: Thank you for your courage.
[APPLAUSE]
JUAN: Mr. Brian Rall?
WOMAN: He’s not here.
JUAN: MS. Anya Briggs?
MS. BRIGGS: My name is Anya Briggs and I am a private citizen and
resident of New York City. I have been and continue to be experimented
on against my will and without my permission as a human test subject and
as a targeted individual forced into trauma based mind control
programs.
Because of this ongoing experimentation, torture and abuse, since 2008
and before, I have endured the following physical and psychological
symptoms: extreme debilitating and chronic fatigue, weakness and
dizziness for days and weeks at a time; lack of motor control as well as
the sensation of being physically controlled by an unseen force.
My left arm occasionally experiences pain and discomfort from an
object of unknown origin moving under my skin and being activated
somehow. I have an unusual dental filling of unknown origin on the side
of one of my back upper right teeth and no memory of having this
procedure done.
And I have X-ray printouts and a signed affidavit from my dentist
stating this. Said dental filling causes me sharp pain, discomfort and
sensitivity.
I have experienced extreme itching, burning and pain in my right leg
that turned into an intense bright pink and then disappeared completely
after several minutes. And I have photographs of this happening in real
time.
I have a stretched uterus, and yet I have never consciously and to my
knowledge been pregnant. I have had equidistant sores that have appeared
on both of my sub-scapularus muscles at the same time.
I have been drugged. I’ve been abducted from my home. I’ve had guns
pointed at my head. I’ve had death threats. And much, much worse,
believe it or not, by being in these programs and experiments, the after
effects of this have made me socially avoidant most days, and it’s
extremely hard to establish relationships with people I can trust as a
result of these abominations. And I thank the Committee for hearing my
statements.
JUAN: Thank you.
[APPLAUSE]
JUAN: Mr. Ken Rhodes?
DR. WAGNER: Juan, I think people are being so good about keeping the
pace, and this is so stressful for many of them, we can allow them to
slow down just a little bit, okay? This is important for them.
MR. RHODES: My name is Ken Rhodes from Michigan. I’m here to tell you
that the use of electronic weapons and mind control is helping the
United States against the American people.
You may think this will never affect you, but there will come a day
when this will affect all of you, your children, their children and
every generation from this day forward.
I’m here to speak for every person affected by these horrific crimes against humanity. I can’t go on. Thank you. WOMAN: Come on. Yes you can.
JUAN: Ken, if you want to get back in line at some time and you want to finish that up, we would understand.
WOMAN: Could someone read it for him?
DR. WAGNER: Someone could certainly read it for him, yes.
WOMAN: Ken, I’ll read it for you.
MR. RHODES: Okay.
DR. WAGNER: Thank you for doing that. And you are? I’m sorry.
LISA BECKER: My name is Lisa Becker.
DR. WAGNER: Thank you Lisa.
LISA BECKER: I had the privilege to address you at the last
Commission meting. I’m here to speak for every person affected by these
horrific crimes against humanity by a tyrannical group of people
committed to eugenics and population control. If you’re not part of this
inside group of tyrants, you’re like all of us here today. Ask
yourselves. Have you forgotten what it is to be an American and to be
brought into tyranny? You will soon learn what it is to be a slave.
Allowing this to continue is allowing our rights and freedoms to be
taken away from all of us – one right at a time. It’s interesting how
much technology exists, that would find the criminals and the
perpetrators of this heinous crimes of electronic harassment and
terrorist tactics, being used against innocent U.S. citizens on a daily
basis. These technologies should be used for the betterment of our
society, but you know what the most powerful weapon is in our arsenal
that would put an end to these horrific crimes, once and for all, it is
someone giving a damn and correcting the things that are taking place.
We have all gone to people who took an oath to protect and serve, who
have been in commissions to investigate the unethical treatment of
citizens and human experimentations. We have been denied protection and
service and have been ignored by commission after commission, enough is
enough, this is America. We’re supposed to be better than this. We all
know what Hitler did to the Jewish people. When this all comes out what
the American government has done to their own people it will make Hitler
look like a saint. If some of you didn’t get some morals.
MALE: I’d like to object to that.
LISA BECKER: Thank you but I’ll finish.
MALE: He’s used person I … 14:08…
LISA BECKER: Well then you don’t understand what we’re going through.
If some of you don’t get some morals or conscience, you will be need,
I’m sorry, I can’t read the rest of it. Thank you.
DR. WAGNER: Ken and Lisa, thank you very much.
MALE: And also a victim, I’m 67 years old from young (inaudible) Thank you.
DR. WAGNER: Thank you.
MALE: Hearing more this.
DR. WAGNER: Thank you. Ms. Sandra Fields.
SANDRA FIELDS: In a way I’m very sorry to address you like this
because I think that what you’re doing is admirable, but I’m here to
represent this other group, and I am also targeted and this is my story.
My name is Sandra Fields. I’m an architect, recipient of Who’s Who of
Women in America achievement award and have run a successful business
for over 28 years. My life and livelihood have been compromised for the
last 11 years by being attacked by electro-magnetic radiation torture,
and by organized stalking. I cannot live in my rent stabilized apartment
in New York City as a result of this torture. I’m currently staying in
motels and friends’ houses in the last year. Thousands of Americans are
currently suffering from chemical, electro-magnetic, psychological and
physical torture with no government relief or laws. Our servicemen,
prisoners, and thousands of unknowing innocent civilians are currently
being lamed, tormented and tortured as a result of military research,
medical research, pharmaceutical research, physiological and
psychological studies that have virtually destroyed participants’
sanity, physical well-being, reputation and privacy. Government projects
like MK Ultra and Cointell Pro are rumored to be active today with no
update with updated forms of surveillance and torture and technologies.
In 2010 Morrison and Foerster won the right to proceed with a case
against the CIA, Department of Defense and the U.S. Army for veterans’
development of multiple diseases and ailments tied to a secret testing
program in which the United States military personnel were deliberately
exposed to chemical and biological weapons and other toxins without
informed consent. Sleep deprivation, poisoning and high frequency doses
of continuous microwave pulses are inclined to increase one’s chances
for mental disorders, autism, arthritis, multiple sclerosis, cancer and
Alzheimer’s disease. The body’s immune system is broken down, their
nervous system and the brain and the spinal cord are attacked and
maimed. There are no laws to prevent electro-magnetic except in Maine.
The Federal Government does not acknowledge these crimes. There is no
literature, educational resources of assistance for victims. I would
like to ask this Committee to consider an investigation into these
unethical violations and a task force be created for educational and to
help people who are in trouble of these situations, and I’d be honored
to be help in this thing. Thank you very.
DR. WAGNER: Thank you Sandra. Mr. Stephen Hopitect.
STEPHEN HOPITECT: I just want to give also want to give thanks and
gratitude for this Commission actually being here and being able to bear
witness to our testimony to us as well. I think it’s a credit to Obama,
even though I’m against a lot of his policies that he would actually
create this type of Commission. I do hope that it goes beyond these
walls though and actually creates some type of implementation for
change. I can speak for hours about my own personal experiences and some
of the more modern versions of projects that several people talked
about. My harassment started back in 1997, more from a remote
influencing perspective, I made contacts in different military
industrial complexes, basically different agencies, I had received
microwave harassment actually on and off for a number of years, where
they were trying to project images of suicide and various states of
basically emotional mood management. This was confirmed to me in 2001 by
a contact of a national security agency. He worked in… he still, I’m
much more (inaudible) at this point but I talked to him recently, he
worked in communications intelligence division of NSA for 25 years and
this is right after 9/11, with my doctor. When he came to meet with me, I
had a part-time job at the time, and he basically was working at a kind
of like, in that division he was working, he was examining different
types of abuses that were going on in the NSA, and he stated to me
personally that my attention fell within the realm of potential abuse,
in the agency that he was investigating. At this point, he is still
involved in the agency. I can provide his name and information more in
private though, because I don’t want to get in trouble for
over-disclosure of someone who’s still active in that agency, especially
with the technology they have. Anyway, he basically also confirmed to
me that what I experienced in terms of some, just the tip of the
iceberg, a part of my experience is with the emotional projection, he
said that that was very common and that they were using microwaves
because they had taken really advanced EEG images of people of people in
different emotional states, not those digital brain wave signatures,
emotional clusters of people feeling different emotional states. They
said that they could take those digital brain wave signatures, piggyback
on a certain bandwidth of microwaves as a carrier wave and they can
target people worldwide without need for a local transmitter. He
confirmed all that to me and said they used satellite to target anybody
they want and it’s a very common procedure within this portion of NSA.
Which is horrendous that they actually let this going on. So I think the
idea of the non-consensual abuse needs to be extended to more the
covert military establishment and then later on, 2003, when I was
getting more advanced projections were like multi-layered not just from
my conscious feelings but into my unconscious, he said that they were
trying to fine tune their projections on me to see how I could block it
out, because I work more in the consciousness field of meditation,
alternative spirituality, so I do different techniques to tell people to
block out some of these frequencies by taking control of their own
bio-platonic fields. I’ve also made contact with many scientists over
the years, undergone scientists who used to work in various intelligence
areas, I’ve also confirmed this and much much beyond technologies,
where they use longitudinal electro-magnetic wave technologies.
Technology that Tessler first developed, which also could be used in
alternative healing, I’m also aware, we have a friend in upstate who’s
been curing people of different illnesses using this technology but he
worked in the Pentagon for decades and confirmed some of this technology
is also being used for more of the nefarious activities. I can go on
for hours, but I’ll probably provide written testimony. Thank you.
DR. WAGNER: Mr. Rodney Bittle. Mr. Rodney Bittle?
RODNEY BITTLE: Hello, Ladies and gentlemen and the Committee. I’m
here today representing an organization, also myself, under the
technological advancements of injustices, whether it be medical or
military. I’ve been under attack for some 25 years, mentally and
physical abuse, psychological abuse, pornography, also have all these
negative, as this gentlemen was talking about, suicidal and mental put
through tortuous things such as mental abuse caused by a car accident,
so maybe one of your family members dying, maybe your sister or your
brother, Committee members I ask you to think for a second and
acknowledge that this does happen, and it is relevant to today and it is
relevant to the bio-ethical issue committee and one thing that I would
like to mention that might give you some insight to just how detailed
and how powerful this is. I was in my living room one day and this
computer came in, the interface of this computer, and it said something
to me about cause I was called satanic and anti-Christ for the ugly,
nasty evil torture they was putting me through. It dropped a program
into me and this would have been the military side of this computer I’m
sure, that was martial arts technique that I performed to exact
precision where I picked up my coffee table in my living room with my
leg, wrapped it around it, smashed it into the wall. If you don’t think
these are detailed, that they don’t get information from every
individual that we’re talking about, his is how detailed and how
powerful these programs can be, anyone here could be manipulated at any
time. Do not think anyone is above it. We need regulations, we need
laws, we need people to look into these regulations. Human experimental
is going on for years. What you were talking about earlier, I appreciate
the Committee but what we’re talking about is so high-tech and
advanced, we’re not talking hospitals, we’re not talking people in psych
wards, but it does include those. We’re talking high tech warfare here.
We’re talking technological advancement beyond the human comprehension
of the mind. We’re way, way behind the comprehension of the mind, that’s
why they’re so far ahead, that’s far they can get away with it, there’s
no regulations, no laws against this type of human experimental.
Whether it’s in the United States of America that’s happened, these
corporations are outside that are outside of the United States of
America producing these weaponry and doing these studies, we need
regulations. It’s way above, I believe, possibly pharmaceutical
companies are helping with this research, backing it, there’s no
regulation on it, they’re the big money people. You know, I didn’t
realize you guys are regulating that stuff, but there’s big money in
this medical research. I think they’re buying it and selling it and
they’re killing us, they’re killing you.
DR. WAGNER: We appreciate your story, because I think you can talk to
that first-hand, some of these broader allegations, maybe I’ve got the
crux of what your concern is. Okay? Thank you.
MALE: (INAUDIBLE)
DR. WAGNER: You bet. Thank you. Mr. Derrick Robinson.
DERRICK ROBINSON: Good afternoon and thank you for this opportunity.
Good afternoon to the Commission and I thank you for this opportunity to
speak to you this afternoon. My name is Derrick Robinson and I’m
President of an organization called Freedom Covert
Harassment and Surveillance and I represent many of the people that are
in this room today, as well as hundreds of those across the U.S., and
millions, many thousands across the U.S. who are not in our
organization, who are being targeted without their knowledge, as well as
those world-wide, millions, thousands, I’m speaking of thousands of
people here, in China, who sent me their statement to give to you. I’ve
heard a lot this afternoon about IOB’s, about ethics vs., sorry my
thoughts aren’t coming together right now. But anyway, but what we want
to express to you is that human experimentation by this government is
happening today, that there are many thousands of people, whether
they’re realizing it or not, are being affected, and that we would like
to express to you that this is a situation that needs to be addressed by
a task force, by a commission, because we are not hearing, because the
government is not hearing from those who are being victimized by the
experimentation. What you are speaking about tonight is very relevant in
terms of those who are being experimented on, but what about feedback
from those who are being experimented on who have no place to go, who
need a voice, who are suffering like these people here, who are
suffering like those across this country, and there are, what you’re
hearing tonight is just a minuscule amount of what I hear on a daily
basis. This is a widespread government program that is non-consensual
that is affecting many, many thousands and it’s growing daily. And the
Commission, I would hope would express to Barrack Obama that
non-consensual federally funded human research programs are going on and
need to be addressed, and also the victims of those programs need a way
to file a complaint, to talk to a Commission, to talk to a task force
about what is happening to them. Thank you.
DR. WAGNER: Mr. Robert LeBudier.
ROBERT LEBUDIER: Thank you for having me. My name is Robert LeBudier.
I’m an eye witness and victim that people are tampering with and
retaliating against and this is my public comment concerning non
compliance of bio-ethics and other codes of ethics. These non
compliances are a grave preplanned, premeditated breach of international
conventions, and are intentional heinous atrocious, war crimes against
humanity, domestic terrorism, domestic espionage and genocide. We the
victims are a group of U.S. nations that are getting directly affected
to the extent of attempted murder, that is genocide. The means and
methods that are being abused are electronics and directed energy that
unlawfully harness human subjects, unlawful experiments, research and
other exercise, the unlawful practicing and patterning of organized war
crimes, the means are electro-magnetic, radio frequency, cyclotronic
fields, voice to skull techniques and other energy weapons that harness
unwilling humans against our will, and criminally conspires against our
rights. They’re used to (inaudible) is one of the means of unlawful
surveillance with criminal intent to terrorize, injury, harass,
intimidate and murder. That’s called stalking with the same intent.
Also., unlawful human service (inaudible) 28:27 that steals an
individual’s bio-energy signature through signaling splashing, unwilling
human subjects, then using synthetic telepathy, that’s a theft of human
intangible property, and other directed energies causing physical and
mental pain, suffering and trauma. These perpetrators torture victims in
their physical control. This is cruel, unusual treatment and
terroristic hate crime that damages the subject’s health, finances,
dignity, employability, reputation and human property while disrupting
our mental facilities. Where is the equal protection of the law that is
constitutionally ours? Is it not unethical to keep that from us? Our
country’s government helped develop these technologies and they are
forbidden to use on U.S. nations. That is law. Do not execute laws
concerning these crimes is seditious conspiracy and treason. These
unlawful acts are in direct violation of UN General Assembly
resolutions, international humanitarian laws and a slew of U.S. laws and
is completely unethical and irresponsible. WE rightly seek disclosure
through prosecution. Thank you for having me. Good day.
DR. WAGNER: MS. Lynn Barrinburg?
LYNN BARRINBURG: I’m Lynn Barringburg, and I had prepared a commentary
but I find I’m not going to give it. I couldn’t put it together in my
head, for 90 seconds. I’m another person who’s being used for non
consensual human experimentation. Stanford Research Institute, Lockheed
Martin, and UC Berkeley, are the criminal organizations and university
that are involved in this. I can’t speak publicly. Anyway, there are no
ethics, there’s no morality, rules, regulations, they’re able to side
step an IRB, Institutional Review Board, for god sakes. I mean, there’s a
lot going on, you people don’t know about. You know nothing and it’s
coming your way. You know. These nanotechnology institutes that are
attached to national laboratories, UC Berkeley has its own molecular
foundry, you need to look into this stuff because it’s going mainstream,
it’s not just us. You’re going to be affected, your loved ones, your
children, your grand-children, you need to take a look at what’s going
on here. We may not be the most eloquent speakers, but don’t thoroughly
discount us.
DR. WAGNER: Mr. Timothy White. Okay. Mr. Ted Gunderson. I’d like to point Mr. Gunderson is not here, is that the.
MALE: Yeah, I was that I couldn’t speak for him. I was told I could and then they told me today I couldn’t.
DR. WAGNER: I’d be happy to, would you prefer to speak for him? That’s fine.
MALE: I’m going to say something.
DR. WAGNER: Go for it.
MALE: Ted Gunderson.
DR. WAGNER: And your name? I’m sorry.
PETER ROSENHOME: I’m Peter Rosenhome. Ted Gunderson was in charge of
the FBI of Los Angeles and we had written up a speech but I was told I
couldn’t present it, so I don’t have it. DR. WAGNER: Oh.
PETER ROSENHOME: But he basically says that this is all going down,
mind control is destroying our nation, and stuff like that. Honestly I
was told I couldn’t do it, so I’m not prepared. But Ted was a top FBI
agent, and he would like to support us.
Dr. WAGNER: Okay.
PETER ROSENHOME: Okay.
DR. WAGNER: Thank you very much. Those are the names that we had
scheduled for the microphone.. please stay there. Are there others from
the audience that we’ve got, a few more minutes just to… Would you just
rather just give us something rather than speak, is that your?
FEMALE: No, I would like to speak.
DR. WAGNER: Please go to the microphone. Identify yourself.
LESLIE CRAWFORD: Hello, everyone, my name is Leslie Crawford. I’m
here from the State of Michigan. I wanted to speak about bio-technology
applications being utilized on my person. I have medical reports showing
eye damage being done to my eyes, my eyes does not have a mirror image,
I also have nano wiring inside my eyes, I have pictures of the actual
implants from the eye doctor, once enlarging the nano implants, you will
see a copy of the actual particles in my eyes. I have CAT scans in my
eyes and PETs showing wiring, nano wiring in my head. This is my brain,
it is straight from the right side to the left side of my head. I also
have implants in my chin, in the chin region on both sides, one side
shows a wire, the other side shows the actual implant. Implant particle
devices coming down through here, projectiles of the nano particles on
the side of my head, enlarged pictures. These crimes is happening in
America, this is a domestic problem, not only international, the victims
is not being just victimized individually, we are being victimized and
our family members as well. Gang stalking tactics and harassment was
utilized to implement us into the program unconventionally.
DR. WAGNER: Leslie, I think your comments reinforce much of what
we’ve heard, and if you don’t mind, I’d like to make room for others at
the microphone now since it seems to be reinforcing. Juan, I’d like you
to pick some of these gentlemen right here.
FEMALE: She’s been waiting.
DR. WAGNER: I’m sorry, who’s been waiting? Oh yeah, please.
EUGENIA VERVAIN: My name is Virginia Vervain.
DR. WAGNER: I’m sorry. Eugenia?
EUGENIA VERVAIN: Eugenia Vervain. Yes. I think from this Commission
and this panel but ethics there were most talk about pharmaceutical
research, but I haven’t heard anyone talking about a psychotronic
weaponry, it’s a bio-electronic magnetic weaponry research. Who in this
panel are familiar with the psychotronic weaponry, raise your hand
please? Who of you know about psychotronic weapons? Any one of you?
MALE: You’re saying psychotronic.
EUGENIA VERVAIN: Psychotronic bio electro-magnetic weapons, are you familiar with that?
DR. WAGNER: Not at all. EUGENIA VERVAIN: No, okay, in this audience, is anybody familiar with the psychotronic weapon?
FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes. Yes.
MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes. Yes.
EUGENIA VERVAIN: Okay, the audience is familiar with that and I
think that in order for a panel or a commission to be able to help this
problem and this issue will have to have more knowledge on what
psychotronic weapons are. I am physically leashed from my neck to the
electro-magnetic power of one of the weapons that is being used against
me, I get tortured day and night, with (inaudible) dreams that I don’t
want in my head. And for days my body they prod with neurological system
so they do anything to my body, sometimes it’s painful, sometimes it
makes me sick, that’s one of [inaudible], sometimes I feel I’m going to
have a heart attack, they do all kinds of things like pulsating with the
electromagnetic frequencies, they use a program called “Metal Reality”
that makes them feel that they are writing there in front of you and as
you know, electricity travels as fast as light and you know who fast
that travels, right? How fast does it travel?
DR. WAGNER: 186,000 a second, yes. I’ll tell you what, though, we do need to hear…
EUGENIA VERVAIN: So we appreciate if you can become more aware and
read the internet, this comes from [inaudible] on psychotronic weapons
so that you will probably be able to help us after you have a better
knowledge of what these weapons are and what these weapons do, thank you
very much.
DR. WAGNER: Thank you for your patience.
KEVIN CANADA: Hi, my name is Kevin Canada, and I can’t say it’s a
joy to be here because I would much rather be somewhere else besides
here, I’d rather be not a targeted individual, which I have been for the
past 8 years. I believe my nightmare started at a V.A. hospital.
Nineteen-ninety-eight I got very involved in some political stuff and I
won’t go in to the details but I became what’s called a “targeted
individual” and my life has changed unbelievably, gang stalking,
electromagnetic weapons, directed energy weapons, some of these people
even came to my house and jury-rigged electricity and I’m being
electrocuted and everything. My appliances, I’ve been told that they can
turn your appliances into weapons against you. So it’s become a
nightmare, I think I’ve been implanted at a V.A. hospital, I don't know,
I’m trying to figure it out, I know I’m being watched everywhere I go,
surveilled, tracked like an animal. We need help. We need to be able to
go someplace to find out if we have been implanted, what kind of
technology are they using against us, we have nothing but be, try to get
involved, for me to get involved to make this a better country, and for
that we’ve stepped on some toes and now we’re targeted individuals and
I’m sure most of the people here, innocent, are being targeted for
reasons they really don’t know. So we need your help and I think the
suggestion of having a T.I. on this Commission is a great suggestion. We
need somebody who knows what’s happening to us helping us. But we need
the technology to find out if we’ve been implanted and, because these
intelligence agencies can get to any doctor, they can get to anybody
that we see who might possibly help us, lawyers, attorneys, cops, you
name it, they use it to harass us and attack us and we need your help.
DR. WAGNER: Thank you, Kevin.
ROSE KAPINSKY: Hello, I’m Rose Kapinsky from Madison, Wisconsin. I
know you would like to hear a little bit about my story. Often when I’m
with people the perpetrators leave me alone, perhaps to make it look
like it’s my imagination and then often when I am alone, they start
hurting me, they start fatiguing me. I wanted to say quickly to help the
light bulb go off for you, there’s always been a continual mysterious
missing amounts of billions or trillions in the pentagon budget and try
to think where that money might be going. There has been a story about
oh the naughty contractors charging $100 for a hammer. I believe that
may be a cover story. I think that, as you were saying, I think that the
contractors for the Pentagon have gotten very proliferative. That’s not
what you were saying, but you were talking about shutting down or
dealing with egregious or abusive situations in research and I want to
say, think about it for a minute. You’re very intelligent. Do you think,
in the past things have gone on. Do you think there is nothing going on
right now? Really? Zero? Zero, zilcho? Come on. That would be foolish,
that would be, excuse me, that would be somewhat stupid. I’m sorry, that
would be deluded and read Golachek, In the Name of Science, to hear
about the history. Read current things like Nick Beggich, Controlling
the Human Mind, subtitle, Tools For Political Control, or Tools for Peak
Performance. And again, I think it’s just an issue of money, money,
money and it’s gotten out of control.
DR. WAGNER: I think this going to be our last, I think this is going
to be our last one. I’ll tell you what, is there a woman right behind
you? We’ll take you also. Why don’t we do these last two questions, ok?
LILLIANA CONNOR: My name is Lilliana Connor, and I have also been
subjected to these technologies. I think that the Commission is studying
the issue of informed consent and that is a right, a human right that
we all should have, even if these are classified operations, all persons
should have the right of informed consent so that they could either
decline participating in such studies, or otherwise opt out if they are
informed at a later date that they have been subject to these studies.
And non-consensual experimentation is a total violation of human rights.
It should be outlawed, you know, any non-consensual experimentation.
People should not have to be subjected like this and it would be
important if you could recommend to President Obama to change the
regulation of informed consent to include even classified operations on
persons, and to outlaw and forever ban any non-consensual
experimentation in the United States.
DR. WAGNER: Thank you. By the way I did not get your name? LILLIANA CONNOR: Lilliana Connor.
DR. WAGNER: Lilliana Connor. Thank you.
LETICIA PETERS: Hello, my name is Leticia Peters from Trenton, New Jersey. I spoke last time in March and since then..
DR. WAGNER: Yeah…
LETICIA PETERS: And since then my life has gone downward. And it’s a
shame that we are Americans and we just want to be treated like
Americans and we are part of a non-consensual human experimentation
which uses highly advanced electronic technology without our informed
consent or knowledge. And we are speaking for thousands of Americans
citizens. We do not want an apology, we want justice and we want justice
now. I am requesting that the Presidential Commission conduct an
investigative hearing on non-consensual human experimentation and I do
have credible evidence I’m submitting, 1158 videos and pictures that’s
been occurring for the last two years. I’m also presenting 10
attachments which includes my 14-page public comment, plus Robert S.
public comments, testimonies from Queen, Ottawa, three pages of
testimony for Cindy Golmann. I have a 16 page letter from Japan for the
Technological Crime Victims Network. Also I have a prayer because we
really need prayer. This country needs prayer because so many people
have died or lost their lives and we just want justice. And I just would
like to come forward to submit all this information.
DR. WAGNER: Please feel free to give it to Val right here. I think
with that we do need to wrap. It’s difficult to know how to respond to
this session. Obviously there is deep concern and ..
WOMAN: I forgot to say that the biggest thing we need to do is,
please, I’m begging you, get over intimidation brought down on you by
the Department of Defense.
DR. WAGNER: Thank you. Thank you all for your input.
MAN: In the list, he didn’t actually, he was. I would like to talk to him.
WOMAN: I would like to talk as well.
DR. WAGNER: Val, how many were on … we really got those on the list.
I’m so sorry. I tell you what, we do have ways to submit through the
website. Is that correct? So we do get a chance to read that but you’re
going to remind me what the site address is for everybody.
VAL: It’s right up there.
DR. WAGNER: Oh, it’s right up there. So you can submit and you must,
please do submit on that, ok. So thank you. I think we’re…
MAN: Just one second. for purpose. Did you ever see my letter?
WOMAN: We really…
MAN: Did you receive my letter miss.
WOMAN: Yes, we did.
MAN: You received it. I would like to have the answer. Yes.
WOMAN: We have answered. We do have your list.
MAN: Have you received my letters? WOMAN: Yes, yes.
MAN: You received it.
WOMAN: Yes.
MAN: What do you do in this regard? Did you receive my phone calls? DR. WAGNER: Why don’t… your name sir? Edward….
EDWARD KATZ: Katz. KATZ.
DR. WAGNER: Why don’t we let… if we can… I was just going to say, if I
would allow some time to let you finish, and if I could, if the
Commission would indulge a little extra time in our agenda, will that
satisfy your need?
EDWARD KATZ: Yes.
DR. WAGNER: Thank you sir. You have a minute and a half, please.
WOMAN: Could we ask other people to …
DR. WAGNER: We need others to be seated though please. Everyone seated.
EDWARD KATZ: And this gentleman, who is on the Commission.
DR. WAGNER: OK, we need the microphone, we need the microphone to you. You have..
EDWARD KATZ: You’re afraid to talk to me.
DR. WAGNER: No, no, no.
EDWARD KATZ: Yes you are.
DR. WAGNER: I’m sorry, I’d asked you, please, to, I’ll be happy to
give you time in front of the Commission, it doesn’t sound like that’s
what you want.
EDWARD KATZ: I want
DR. WAGNER: OK, why don’t you take the microphone and we’ll give
you a minute and a half like everyone else. You need the microphone so
we can have a record. And please give us your name again.
EDWARD KATZ: My name is Edward Katz
DR. WAGNER: Edward…. Ok. Calmly please. Tell us your story, or tell us your comment, please.
EDWARD KATZ: Would it send in the ma… name Mrs. Emmy Guttmann.
EDWARD KATZ: Horrifying letter, which has been supported actually by the video statement.
DR. WAGNER: Oh my.
EDWARD KATZ: This video statement shows astrophysical torture by
means of brain implants. All my family received, why we moved to
California, settled right next to the Stanford research, including my
children.
WOMAN: Two boys.
EDWARD KATZ: Two boys been implanted in optic nerves and blah, blah,
blah. Anyway. Mrs. Barbara Boxer requested headquarter F.B.I. to provide
information in this regards and the F.B.I. told us what we are on the
experiment. Then the Department of Justice, Mr. Holder, told us what we
have to learn how to live with that. With torture. With robbery and that
is on tape and Mrs. Gutmann have this tape and we beg you for many
times, please call Obama, stop torture. Obama can stop torture. Did you
call? Did you call Obama, we’re asking you, stop torture, physical
torture, please.
WOMAN: Stop the torture.
DR. WAGNER: Please, we can..
EDWARD KATZ: Inhumane torture. Just take a look this picture of people.
WOMAN: I, I—
EDWARD KATZ: OK, thank you very much.
EDWARD KATZ: Especially we came from Soviet Union, especially we came
from the Communist Bloc and are here for the freedom and what they did
to my babies.
DR. WAGNER: It’s obviously a horrific story and I …
WOMAN: [inaudible] for Mrs. Gutmann, please sir.
DR. WAGNER: I think Val can take it, she’s our head staff person. Thank you very much.
EDWARD KATZ: [inaudible] many, many times [inaudible].
DR. WAGNER: I think you for your civility in ….
EDWARD KATZ: I think.
DR. WAGNER: I thank you for your civility in presenting to us. And I
think with that we should stand adjourned. Thank you all very, very
much. Have a good day.
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And to maximize the time for anybody in the
audience to make a comment, raise a question, we are going to not break
and move right into public comments. And so there is a roving
microphone. Somebody — Who has the microphone? Can I see who has the
microphone? Okay. So people don’t have to crawl over each other.
And
if you would keep your comments brief, I would be very appreciative.
Because if you don’t, I’m afraid I have to make time for others. Just
give us one moment, please.
We have been timing, keeping all of our speakers to time, too. And that is the apparatus.
MS. BONHAM:
If
I can clarify. We had a number of people who asked to speak and we had a
public sign-in at the front table as we communicated throughout the
past few weeks with people who asked to speak.
Consequently
to all of you wonderful people in line, I am sorry to say I am going to
go in order of this list. So everybody could actually just sit down
please and I will call the list and I will bring this to you. Okay?
Thank you so much.
DR. GUTMANN:
Please,
Val, start. And I would ask each person after Val calls you and you come
up, if you could just introduce yourself to us, we would be very
appreciative of that. Thank you.
MS. BONHAM:
Wonderful. So the first person I have is Michael S. Perfect. Thank you so much.
MR. SHANEYFELT:
My
name is Michael Shaneyfelt. I am from Birmingham, Alabama. The question
that I brought to the Board is that in 2000 I was approached by a Navy
sub diver and he brought to my attention the use of an auditory weapon
that he stole from the United States Navy. He told me about this weapon
that he stole from the Navy and he told me how the weapon would affect
the central nervous system of a human. And he wanted me to go out and
assist him in certain things.
And in 2006, my life
changed. I woke up one day and I got a strong electrical shock in the
center of my chest. From that, I started to have problems with my heart.
I started having bigeminies, irregular rhythms. I went into the
hospital. The doctors determined that I was getting an electrical shock
through my chest.
Then I went in and had an
operation done, an ablation. And with all this, it just keeps going on.
From then it went to my lungs and then from there it went to my kidneys.
From there it went to my bladder. From there it went to my colon and it
keeps going on and on and on.
Medically I have
been looked at and reviewed over and over and over again. My brother, he
is a doctor. My sister, she is a nurse. My nephew is a nurse. And I
have got people that have talked to me about medical situations and
medical views. And I know exactly what is occurring is wrong and I feel
like I am a test subject. And I have responded to the government and the
government responded back to me but I have not seen no action.
I have given you all a report and you all can look at the letters that I have sent in.
MR. SCHATZ:
Thank
you. My name is Gerald Schatz and I am a lawyer and retired professor,
Assistant Professor of Ethics and Law at Michigan State University. I
want to address two things very quickly.
One is
the theme of vulnerability and its recognition. We have gone from an era
of very reflective and I think very decent recognition of the moral
obligations of researchers to an era of discussion of regulatory burden.
I think that is unseemly.
The second point is
that there is law out there. The bioethics community has been oblivious
to it but there is international law. There is the International
Covenant on Civil and Political Rights the United States ratified in
1992 and it makes informed consent an absolute requirement, no
exceptions, not even in emergencies, subject to those normal legal
fictions of consenting for the incapacitated patient to medical care and
so forth.
Additionally, the Geneva Conventions
and additional protocols to the Geneva Conventions make research very,
very difficult or prohibited altogether for those individuals who are
caught up in the war and armed conflicts.
Michigan
State University faculty responded to the OHRP request for comment in
2005 on equivalent protections. I will be pleased to provide that
comment and those citations and some additional materials to the
Commission. Thank you.
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you.
MR. RYAN:
Thank you very much. My name is Cina Ryan. I am an American. I have been living here since 1976.
To
answer the question the chair lady that is it still going to happen or
is it still going on, I will assure you that there is still
experimentation going on and one of live is standing right here.
I
strongly believe that I have been targeted for the experimentation of
brain research since September 2008, without my consent. They are
controlling my mind and using electronic remote control device to send
instruction. In the past two and a half years, I have been subjected to
constant electric shock, a sleep disturbance, a sleep deprivation, short
breaths, severe localized pain into various parts of my body, telephone
and bell rings in my ears, heat waves through my body, horrifying
dreams, creating sudden fear and worries in my mind.
They
do these mostly when I am inside my apartment but sometimes all this
happens, some of this happens when I am outside without I am seeing
anybody or any device. This experimentation are done to me without any
touch or anything or see anybody.
This inhuman and
painful method of torture include reading my thoughts and memories. To
this, they have been able to control me and subject me to severe pain
that I have been suffering for the past 29 months. My health has
deteriorated during this time and I have no medical insurance to
significant help. My life is in danger and I need your help from the
government. And I am only asking them to stop this painful torture and
leave me alone so I can go back to my life. Thank you.
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you.
STAFFER:
Dr. John Hall.
DR. HALL:
My
name is Dr. John Hall. I am a medical doctor from Texas. As I
understand the memorandum from the President, it is for you to determine
if current legislation is adequate in protecting individuals and if
there is any ongoing experimentation.
In reviewing
the Common Rule, it is very obvious that there is a lot of loop holes
to informed consent. All of the horrific experiments you have mentioned,
Willowbrook, MKULTRA, radiation experiments, mostly were done without
informed consent. They were funded by the DoD and intelligence agencies
where I am not even so sure you would know if there is an IRB, much less
if an IRB is looking at informed consent.
As a
physician, relative to some of what you are hearing today, in the
community we are seeing an alarming rate of complaints of use of
electromagnetic weapons. Microwave auditory effects, silent sound
spectrum, EEG cloning, which has taken the lab out of the laboratory and
into the home. Most of these from the research that we have reviewed
can be done remotely. It seems to be more weapons research than medical
research.
I personally corresponded with upwards
of 1500 victims all complaining of identical complaints from every state
in the nation of being exposed to electromagnetic radiation,
non-ionizing radiation for the use of cognitive control or behavior
control.
I submitted a paper to you and there is
another paper submitted to each member from another physician in Kansas
City alluding to the same thing.
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you.
STAFFER:
Ms. Millicent Black.
MS. BLACK:
My
name is Millicent Black. I am from Tennessee, possibly a trans-generational person whose family members have been used for at
least three generations and I am the second one. My Dad possibly was the
first one who was admitted to a Nashville Hospital with a pineal gland
tumor left there with a plate in the back of his head, not the front of
his head where his pineal gland would have been.
At
his death, I sought — Well actually before his death I sought legal
counsel for some horrendous treatment he had received at a nursing home
that was also partnering with that hospital in Nashville, only to find
out that a judge told the attorneys to drop that case.
I
am a part of the group that is here today representing those who are
receiving the electromagnetic torture and even my daughter at five
months old was referred to that same Nashville Hospital after having
been refused treatment at the local hospital. I believe she is also a
victim of the electromagnetic torture. Where does this stop? When are we
re-given our rights as humans and as citizens? Does being African
Americans qualify us as non-Black or non-White, and non-American
citizens or non-American people? We seem to have a double blind going.
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you.
STAFFER:
Mr. Marshall? Mrs. Marshall.
MS. MARSHALL:
Good
afternoon. My name is Connie Marshall. I am a former mayoral candidate
from Louisville, Kentucky. I have never been involved in any criminal
activity. I found a document in my bank account that said problem with
Kentucky government. Check federal government paperwork in file before
releasing information to anyone.
I am an eight
year victim survivor of assaults by directed energy weapons. The torture
I have experienced consists of body overheating, body extremely cold,
seizures, heart pain, earaches, itching behind eyes, burning behind
eyes, swelling, headaches, involuntary movement of my limbs, exhaustion,
speeding and heart racing, hair coming out by the handfuls as if I have
had chemotherapy, mind paralysis, being hypnotized or being placed in a
trance-type state, being tracked by a drone or satellite, controlled
dreams, sleep deprivation, V2K which is voice to skull, projected sound,
extreme muscle spasms and extreme muscle cramps; being made to fall
down; blue circles around the pupils of my eyes and I am here and you
can look at them if you like; low frequency noises in my home; high
frequency noises in my home; sexual stimulation. Numerous electrical
appliances in my home are destroyed; four computers, two fax machines,
seven telephones, four CD players, VCR, DVD players, the electrical
igniter switch on my furnace, washer and dryer, air conditioner. Also my
car radio, CD player and engine were destroyed. I am watched in my home
24 hours a day and followed around everywhere I go, though I do not
have a criminal history.
When I ran for Mayor of my town, I was also attacked at debates and forums. My website is www.justiceforallcitizens.com. Thank you. And I would like to leave you with these flyers as well. Thank you.
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you.
STAFFER:
Mr. Allen Hornblum.
MR. HORNBLUM:
My
name is Allen Hornblum. I am a Philadelphia-based author who has
written books on things running the gambit from organized crime to
Soviet espionage. But for the purposes of this meeting, I have written
two books on the history of using prison inmates as test subjects. You
may be familiar with one or both of them.
I am
working with a couple colleagues now on the history of using
institutionalized children as test subjects for research. And I can
assure you some of the material I am finding is quite astounding,
including the fact that Nobel Prize winners went to institutions for the
feeble minded to use them as test subjects.
And
in interviewing people over the years, not just test subjects which I do
on a regular basis, but also the doctors who initiated these
experiments, these clinical trials. I am talking about people like
Albert Kligman and Hilary Koprowski, Chester Southam, some of the top
researchers of the twentieth century, most of them are famous but some
are infamous. It is remarkable that almost all of them articulate how
little medical ethics was taught in medical schools at the time. And I
had to bring up, I had to educate one of them, in fact, about the
Nuremberg Code. When I mentioned it, he wasn’t even familiar with it.
These
problems with regard to medical ethics are still there. I periodically
give talks at Universities in med schools and it is stunning to me that
when I go into a book store at the university and go in, maybe I will
see one of my books there. Of course I am a little bit disturbed when
they don’t, but I also don’t see anything by Harriet Washington or by
James Jones, Bad Blood, or by Jonathan Moreno’s book. Medical ethics is
an orphan in today’s medical arena. It is out there in left field. They
really deemphasize it and that is part of the continuing problem.
The
doctors, as Dan said earlier when they do these studies, it is a cost
benefit analysis and there is much more benefit to doing research, even
when it breaks rules and laws and cuts corners than by following the
rules. And that is why I believe the Commission has to make a very
strong condemnation of Dr. Cutler and the institutions and doctors that
he worked with, not just with regard to Tuskegee and Guatemala but there
are so many other incidents and events out there.
As
Susan said, we will continue to discover these. There will be another
commission like yours in ten years going over what you didn’t look at or
what you didn’t do. So I would encourage you to be as aggressive as
possible, not just describe what happened but really condemn those who
broke the law because there are doctors making decisions right now and
those decisions are going the wrong way. Thank you.
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you.
STAFFER:
Ms. Debra Poulson or Debra Paulson.
MS. POULSEN
Hi, I am Debra Poulsen from Kenosha, Wisconsin.
I
am going to refer to a paper from Professor McCoy at the University of
Wisconsin on no-touch torture. He talks about a total assault on all
senses and sensibilities, auditory, visual, tactile, temporal,
temperature, and survival, refined through years of practice. Sensory
disorientation relies on a mix of sensory overload and sensory
deprivation via banal procedures, isolation, by intense interrogation,
heat and cold, light and dark, noise and silence or a systematic attack
on all human stimuli.
I have been a human subject
for experimentation for almost two years and I stand with, I have
contacted Dr. Hall, I stand with a very large group. Excuse me I am very
nervous but I am very tired of having my rights taken away. And thank
you for hearing me and thank you for the others. I would like some help.
Thank you.
[Audience Applause]
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you.
STAFFER:
Ms. Lisa Becker.
MS. BECKER:
Thank
you. My name is Lisa Becker. I am also from Wisconsin. I have been a
non-consenting test subject in military medical research. I, too,
believe my experience is referred to as no-touch torture, utilize
defense technologies.
Jonathan Moreno, he basically predicted all this a number of years ago in his book Undue Risk.
I
am asking you to help initiate a congressional investigation. We have
all come a long way. This is what is needed. We want to have the
accounts of this extreme human rights abuse that is going on in our
country documented and heard, all of the accounts.
We
also need what was done during the Clinton administration, which is a
major declassification of some of these documents that are hiding what
has been going on.
I speak for many when I say we
have suffered long enough. My personal experience has been ten years. I
have been vilified. I have been tortured. I have burns on my body. I am
an American. I have rights.
The answer to the
question, the big question today, could it happen today, the answer is
yes. It is happening today. It is happening for some of us every day.
I am begging for you to help us. Thank you.
[Audience Applause]
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you.
STAFFER:
Mr. James Wollet — Walbert.
MR. WALBERT:
My
name is James Wollet. To date, I have one of the strongest cases
documented of these unethical violations against our society.
Due
to the facts of having the kinds of professionals that I have involved
with this case, I have been able to prove that this crime against others
and myself is real and shows reason to be concerned with.
I
am in hopes that I am able to prove the same thing to this committee
and by the introduction of the evidence that I have to introduce to the
committee, I and the professionals that are standing with myself in this
crime, would like for this committee to consider the introduction of
these documents with the growing concern of this crime to the President
for his review.
With these hopes in mind for this
consideration, I would also like to ask of this committee to consider an
investigation into these unethical violations of others and myself that
are affected by this crime.
With this
consideration of this investigation I request into these matters, I
would also like to point out the abuses of children that have been
documented by the many professionals that I am currently working with
into these matters of this crime. To date, the professionals have been
documenting these offenses against the children that are related to the
many victims of these crimes. They have proven this concern to be valid
as I am pointing out to this committee. The growing concern of fellow
states that have now passed laws against forced chipping of an RFID
tracking chip. These states have now passed such bills into law.
Colorado House Bill 071082; North Dakota Senate Bill 2415; Oklahoma
State Senate Bill 47, House Bill 072092; Missouri House Bill 550;
Pennsylvania Bill; Georgia Senate Bill 235; and the list just goes on.
I
was also wanting to ask if I could provide a portfolio of introduction
of 12 professionals from political support to medical investigations, as
well as private investigative support to committee as well for review.
DR. GUTMANN:
You may. Thank you very much.
MR. WALBERT:
Thank you.
[Audience Applause]
STAFFER:
Mr. Peter Rosen.
MR. ROSENHOLM:
Hi,
I am Peter Rosenholm. I am from Rhode Island. Like all the others, we
go through this every day, at least 14 years now of being tortured. It
is non-consensual human experimentation. It is remote. It is covert. It
is hard to prove it a lot of times. Many of my attacks were microwave
weapons, MEDUSA is one.
In all the hospital
statements when I was hospitalized, I told of being hit by radiation
weapons, that I could hear voices. MEDUSA now admits to all those
capabilities.
I am also in the Naval War Colleges
Congressional District and I have got falsely diagnosed, drugged. I have
pretty much proven all that wrong. I am off all the medication but I am
still tortured. It goes on every day and it goes on every day for all
of these people. What I would like is for us to have a participation on
your committee for someone from our group to actually participate. I am
wondering if that is possible because we are the victims. We are like
the Guatemalans who were tortured. Is there a chance that that can
happen? Did you hear me?
DR. GUTMANN:
You are —
MR. ROSENHOLM:
Is there a chance that a group or an individual from us can be on the committee?
DR. GUTMANN:
We
are constituted by the President as a Commission and we have public
comment and you can write us and we will read everything you give us.
MR. ROSENHOLM:
Right.
DR. GUTMANN:
It is the President who — President Obama appoints the Commission.
MR. ROSENHOLM:
The
other thing we deal with is like a COINTELPRO attack. Law enforcement
attacks us, discredits us, will put us in a mental hospital if we try
too hard. These people all don’t want to go to doctors. The Patriot Act
has provisions what doctors have to follow what they say. So all of
these people aren’t getting their teeth fixed, aren’t going for medical
care. We are in a bad situation.
Thank you.
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you.
STAFFER:
Mr. Kenneth Rhoads or Rhands. Mr. Kenneth Rhoads.
(No response.)
STAFFER
Ms. Letitia Peters.
MS. PETERS:
Madame
Chair, members of the Bioethics Committee, my name is Letitia Peters
and I am from Trenton, New Jersey. I was a federal government employee
working 16 years as an electronics engineer right here in Washington,
D.C. where I got sick due to toxic metal exposure. And when I started
complaining about it and using my rights, I believe now after five years
of being out of the government, after 16 years of service, that I was
put into this 24/7 execution chamber. And I, too, am looking for
congressional investigations. I should be covered under the Whistle
Protection Blowers Act and I, too, would like to submit documentation
which I presented.
And I have been denied medical
treatment. I have been disregarded as being nonhuman. All my rights have
been violated. My parents and I are living together now in Trenton, New
Jersey, and there are low-flying aircrafts dropping biological weapons
over our houses every day in order to try to kill me. And I just want to
demonstrate some of the evidence that I have and provide to you because
I have been trying to get to the President but I know all of my
information has been rerouted.
So I, too, am requesting a congressional investigation as well. And may I present this information to you?
DR. GUTMANN:
You may. Thank you very much.
STAFFER:
Ms. Tammy Battaglia.
MS. BATTAGLIA
Hi,
my name is Tammy Battaglia. I have been enrolled in psychological
experiments on the record since the age of 13 without my consent.
I
have spent many years recovering from experimental hypnosis, physical
and biological testing that I have undergone during decades of tests
conducted by government-funded doctors, corporate think tanks and
researchers.
I have experienced tremendous loss
and trauma over the years of subjection to non-consensual
experimentation, which has been devastating to my life. The people
conducting experiments on other human beings do not consider the
horribly destructive ramifications that they are subjecting victims to.
As a result, there is no rehabilitation after experiments. No
consideration is given to the often severe, psychological and physical
trauma suffered by non-consensual tests subjects almost continuously.
Many
victims such as myself are diagnosed with nonexistent mental illnesses
and as a result, we are expected to take dangerous medications that we
do not need. There is no way to seek justice for what we have endured
because in America, the land of the free, justice is not free.
The
experiments violate every right imaginable and offer no restitution
whatsoever. If myself or any other victim approaches law enforcement or
government agencies, we are spurned and in some cases forcibly taken to
mental institutions. I have not consented to be experimented on by any
branch of the government, military, or members of the American Medical
Association.
The initial experiments unfolded from
decisions that were made for me when I was a child at a time when I was
unable to understand what I was being volunteered for or what the
consequences would be. I deserve to be vindicated and released from
these experiments immediately, as do all of us. Thank you.
[Audience Applause]
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you.
STAFFER:
Ms. Rose Gapinski.
MS. GAPINSKI:
Amy,
I love your question of us to try to figure out what the big problem
is, to really analyze and get to the root of it. And I thought at first
it was containment, which leads to things like false flags to confuse
people. It leads to harassing people to discredit them or disable them,
the TIs that is, the victims. It leads to possible corruption, secrecy,
possible fear of going to prison on the part of the people that are
executing these things.
And then I realized
underneath the containment, the secrecy-containment umbrella, is a
really glaring inability of the U.S. to ever apologize for anything. To
be able to say I am sorry, the rest of the world is waiting for us to
say I’m sorry or I admit to something. I have flaws. Everyone does. And
contrary to the Pentagon myth that you should not do that to be strong,
contrary to that myth, it makes a person stronger. Therefore, it will
also make a country stronger. Other countries would very much appreciate
it.
Say, you know, I’m sorry, two seconds of silence and then we can go on with life.
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you.
[Audience Applause]
STAFFER:
Mr. Jeremy Radlow.
MR. RADLAR:
My
name is Jeremy Radlar. I am here to tell you that non-consensual human
experimentation is happening in the United States today. I have been the
subject of this experimentation for more than five years.
Calling
these activities experimentation is truthful but possibly distracting. I
think the criteria governing the selection of experimentees will prove
to be a much bigger scandal than the experimentation itself.
The
psychological torture protocol that is part of the so-called
experimentation includes, but is not limited to, the use of non-lethal
weapons and mind-invasive technology. Sleep deprivation, pain center
stimulation, and worse are used against subjects.
While
some experimentees have found foreign objects in their bodies
suggesting implantation, most have not. Receiverless mind-invasive
technology has been demonstrated under laboratory conditions but the
most likely explanation is that experimentees are implanted with foreign
objects either too small to appear on commercially available scanning
equipment or designed to be indistinguishable from the surrounding
tissue. These activities are highly deceptive, use clandestine
technology, and have the fingerprints of the CIA all over them.
It
is unreasonable to expect isolated individuals receiving this treatment
to furnish proof. A thorough investigation is warranted. Thanks for
your time.
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you very much.
[Audience Applause]
STAFFER:
Ms. Kathryn Nestor.
MS. NESTOR:
My name is Kathryn Nestor and I am from Pennsylvania.
This
Commission has spoken of a long history of abuse of the human research
subject. Although no one mentioned MKULTRA today, President Clinton
recently apologized for this.
My young child and I
have been used as nonconsensual test subjects. We have been subjected
to COINTELPRO‑like stalking, remote neuromonitoring and electromagnetic
torture, resulting in psychological and physical damage. And I won’t go
into the details of that because I have four pages written in here. It
is very similar to Connie’s testimony.
Please do
not wait 70 years to investigate this. I ask Dr. Amy Gutmann to begin
today. There is new work for the Commission for human subject protection
on our shores. And please give us a dramatic response, Susan. And
please give us a congressional hearing. Thank you.
[Audience Applause]
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you.
STAFFER:
Ms. Miriam Snyder.
MS. SNYDER:
Hello.
My name is Miriam Snyder. I am an educator, minister, human rights
advocate. I work with many people that have suffered the ramifications
of unregulated deadly human research experimentation. Since I have
brought this to the public, I have become a victim, too. In fact in the
past I was. I have three questions I would like the Commission to answer
and then I would like to submit some recommendations so that we do not
have to go through this type of forum of listening, listening, and then
we have to rush this serious assassination program. Human research
experimentation is being used to assassinate innocent people and I think
it is time that it takes much more than two minutes to rush up. I
resent it. I spent my time. I listened and I ask that you listen.
Foremost,
since Guatemala and Tuskegee experiments, it is understood that human
research experimentation via particularly injections on innocent people
is understood that these things are going on. I would like the
Commission to address what is being done to stop the continuance of
non-verifiable injections being used on people.
I
would like to know, the Commission to address, what penalties and
protections are in place for researchers. The incarceration of
researchers who create deadly weapons and viruses. What is going to be
done to stop the deadly created man-made viruses getting out the
laboratory to human bodies? And when are we going to start incarcerating
researchers? All right?
Number three. Who
supervises energy technology, specifically electronic torture? That is a
major issue. Just hold on. I waited two days. Electronic torture. All
these people are here talking about they are being tortured. They are in
a slow-kill program via radiation. The cleft lip babies are coming out
through radiation programs. The studies show it. I have submitted
documentation. We have cleft lip babies because of unregulated radiation
studies. What is going to be done to stop this?
These
people are suffering because of unregulated radiation studies, human
research experiments. And the funding is immense and people are dying.
What is going to be done to stop it? Okay.
With
respect to neuroimaging, I found a tremendous amount of research
regarding injection-induced seizures. Why is human research allowing
experiments that allow injection-induced seizures and through electronic
technology?
Now my recommendation. I would hope
that this committee could launch a specific committee to address these
issues with human rights experts, genocide specialists, people who have
studied mass murders; that it is understood that these things do happen
through genocide and I can give you a list of people that have
documentaries on this; and to investigate the citizen complaints
regarding mind control weapons, in particular energy technology via
satellite; induced seizures via satellite; microwave auditory effect
weapon; all government-sponsored psychological operations; microchipping
through injections.
Above all, we seek the
creation of a means for injections to be verified before entering the
human body and prosecution for anyone using these deadly tactics to harm
the people. And we seek compensation for all the victims who have filed
affidavit after affidavit documenting the atrocities involved with
unregulated and deadly human research experimentation that they have
suffered as a direct result of these criminal human research and the
whistle blowers who have exposed this.
Thank you
very much and please have a forum where we don’t have to do this rush
up. I waited two days and I don’t like being rushed like this, I really
don’t. Thank you.
[Audience Applause]
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you very much.
STAFFER:
Mr. Nigel Nicholson.
MR. NICHOLSON:
Hi,
good evening. My name is Nigel Nicholson and I have been in a
psychological coercive mind control program. This started in 2002 when I
was falsely arrested, I was drugged, and I believe I was hypnotized.
Soon after that, I was being harassed by the police department, along
with noise campaign that was being committed by the New York City Fire
Department. I mean, for a whole year, every time I left my house, I was
bombarded with noise which led me to have a psychological breakdown. I
have been job mobbed. I have been put into what I call an
assassination-type program. I have been villianized. My friends have
totally retreated from me, even though I have continuously reached out
to them.
I have been under what I believe is
neuromonitoring. When I can think of something and go outside and
somebody will walk by me and repeat what I just said, I know I am not
crazy. Okay? Regardless of what is being said, they made the victims of
these programs to be diagnosed with a psychological illness to hide
these crimes because we all know that to discredit an individual, if you
give them a mental illness or diagnose them with a mental illness, no
one is going to believe us. No one is going to believe you or I and this
is how they are hiding these crimes.
[Audience Applause]
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you, sir.
STAFFER:
Ms. Micheline Jones.
MS. JONES:
Hello,
my name is Micheline Jones. I am right here from D.C. I live in public
housing and I mention that because this where most of the poor people
are at, especially these days with the way the economy is going.
I
am the subject of MKULTRA mind control. I am also the subject of
electromagnetic radiation and I have many videos to prove it. I have
taken these videos to newspapers and to various places even including
what is that CDC and everyone has just turned away as if this is
hush-hush. I have had lawyers deny me assistance because they said this
is too big.
So in research I found out that the
former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney asked for reinvestigation under
her resolution H.R. 1026 to re-investigate COINTEL activities. I am
constantly stalked. There is many covert activities that have followed
me. Sleep deprivation, I don’t have that too much now because I force
myself, clocks, radios, too much liquids at night, whatever, just to get
up and get out of the house.
I have asked public
housing from the executive director all the way down to fair hearing
which is still pending right now to get me out of this place but now I
am beginning to wonder would it do any good. I have relocated three or
four times and I had a deputy officer or a county officer tell me this
will follow you. So when they pick their subjects, this goes with you.
I
would like all of this medical abuse to be investigated and, if
possible, for you to get back with us. I didn’t know about this meeting
until yesterday and I do appreciate you letting me have this time to
speak. Thank you.
DR. GUTMANN:
Thank you, Ms. Jones.
STAFFER:
Mr. Timothy White.
MR. WHITE:
I
would like to thank the Commission for allowing the public to address
these issues. And it has been a lot of information and it has been very
good and enlightening. And I see I am in the right place to provide the
information I have.
And yes, the Tuskegee
experiments are still going on and the Guatemala experiments are still
going on. But they are going on because of the advances in the signals
technology and in cognitive neurological technology and
neurophysiological experimentation in research and advances in that
technology is allowing these things to happen and creating a new class
of vulnerabilities for citizens who cannot protect themselves against
this.
We provide citizens who are currently
nonconsensual victims of cognitive neuroscience in neurophysiological
research and experimentation which is enabled remotely through extremely
low frequency computer to brain entrainment technology — This
technology exists and can be verified on subjects with a high degree of
accuracy, using current neuroimaging technologies.
Okay,
this is an atrocity that has gone on for years. And like the Tuskegee
experiments, it is clearly within the scope of this Commission. If there
is any doubt as to the validity of these claims then this Commission
can conduct its own independent investigation by using functional brain
imaging techniques.
We ask that the Committee,
just because of the existence of our organization, Freedom from Covert
Harassment and Surveillance, alone we have thousands of people who have
contacted us claiming to be victims of this. Our existence is
justification that you should investigate this occurrence further.
We
need test developed to determine if a citizen has been harmed by a
cognitive weapon. These are cognitive weapons that somehow these people
are being experimented on with. And just overall, you need to ban the
unethical use of science and technology on all citizens for any reason
and in any form. Thank you.
DR. GUTMANN
Thank you.
FEMALE PARTICIPANT:
May I put my name on the list?
DR. GUTMANN:
I don’t have the list.
FEMALE PARTICIPANT:
Well
what happened was I called in and found out it would be opened up to
actually be able to speak to be put on the list. And when I got here, I
wasn’t informed that there was a list that I actually had to sign up. I
am asking for a minute.
DR. GUTMANN
Yes, you may have a minute. We have about five minutes left.
FEMALE PARTICIPANT
Okay. Well, I will take five minutes.
DR. GUTMANN
No, no.
(Laughter.)
DR. GUTMANN
If there is somebody else. Okay, thank you.
FEMALE PARTICIPANT
I will try.
DR. GUTMANN
Absolutely. Thank you.
FEMALE PARTICIPANT
As
you see, we have, actually this is a minority of us. Approximately
let’s say I have spoken to probably 3,000 people. He is on probably
1,500, he is on 5,000. There is a lot of us across the U.S. And there
are certain statistics I think that if you find that there is something
going on wrong, that you are going on wrong, that somewhere along the
line, somebody has to do an investigation. If there is a certain
percentage of illness. You do an investigation. If there is a certain
amount of cancers in the area, the same as Brockovich went and did the
investigation, she found a certain amount. Well, we are presenting our
case right now. You said you guys wanted to be in the know. We are
giving you the information now so that you are in the know.
There
is something going on. It is an electromagnetic issue and it has to do
with from cell phones all the way to directed energy. And I think
yesterday some of the colleagues went ahead and said that we didn’t
really talk about whether there is energy weapons or not but I mean, we
have thousands and thousands of documentations about energy weapons
themselves and all we are asking for is an investigation on this. People
are being harmed. People are being tortured and people are being
killed. And I think it is a pretty important thing for a bioethics
committee to look into. And all we ask today is to please do that. And
mark on March first 2011 we came to you and we told you. And I don’t
know how many more people. My friends are dead. Tortured to death by
electronic weapons and I don’t know how many more people will die. And I
hope I will be here again if you have this next year.
DR. GUTMANN
Thank you very much.
STAFFER
That is the end of the list.
DR. GUTMANN
Are we —
STAFFER:
That is the end of the list.
DR. GUTMANN
Okay. One minute. Thank you.
MALE PARTICIPANT
I
am going to do the best that I can while being hurt by a national
defense weapon that our country built. I love our country but I am in
contact and have been with the Chief of the Department of Defense Fraud,
Waste and Abuse hotline. He has worked with me and my wife for two
years. And he went to the Pentagon after we were aerosol-ed by a jet at
150 to 200 miles per hour, that being me and my wife. That is why my
face is rebuilt and she is at home taking care of a hundred head of
cattle with a brain tumor. I have had three removed.
I
guess my point would be this, is that I stood up to this program, and
that would be the joint operations system that our country built with a
nonlethal, less than lethal weapons system. And I am the only one known
in the world, besides the people that helped build this system, to have
this actual pulse on camera and have caught it. And I would like to
submit that disk.
But I would guess that the one question I would have — It’s okay, Eli. You don’t have to beat me up with the microphone.
The
one question I would add is first of all, I would like to submit this
to you as promptly as possible and then ask each and every one of you
that 90 percent of the people that approached you spoke the same way I
am, scared but also spoke — They are speaking of directed energy
weapons. That was phased out with a nonlethal and less than lethal
programs. And we all know that. Most of you do anyways.
Would you please help save my life, ma’am?
[Audience Applause]
DR. GUTMANN
Please submit what you have and we will do what we can. Thank you.
MALE PARTICIPANT
And your name?
DR. GUTMANN
My name —
MALE PARTICIPANT
Yes, ma’am.
DR. GUTMANN
— is Dr. Amy Gutmann.
MALE PARTICIPANT
Dr.
Amy Goodman, I am going to submit that to you and if I die from this,
then I am quite sure somebody else will look at the evidence. Thank you
for your time.
